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re: Since I Couldn't Get SFP To Answer My Questions, I'll Ask the PT Board.....

Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:24 am to
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:24 am to
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Strange, but thats exactly what Trump said it was for, in part
Trump said "when the tariffs help us repatriate these companies, the govt is going to take them over."

Right. Let's see a quote
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:27 am to
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Trump said "when the tariffs help us repatriate these companies, the govt is going to take them over."



Dont have to goober. I can show you what he did

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The Trump administration’s unusual step to make the U.S. government one of the largest shareholders in a major Silicon Valley company raises important questions about how that partnership will influence other businesses and affect markets, experts say.


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In a rare move, the United States has invested in a private company that is not in immediate danger of failing or dramatically impacting the economy.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1476 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:33 am to
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Are command economies left or right?
Dang you are stubborn and obtuse. Let's try this

Little Johnny wants to play on the sandlot football team. He's really athletic and smart. But the other boys won't let him have team equipment. What should little Johnny do??

1. Get his own equipment and dominate the competition
2. Be a waterboy for the team and watch everyone succeed while his muscles atrophy and he sinks into a miserable depression, gets hooked on drugs and panhandles for money. Eventually he turns to prostitution and dies a horribly painful death from numerous STDs. The other boys steal all his stuff and repo his family property.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:34 am to
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Are command economies left or right?
Dang you are stubborn and obtuse


Just answer the fricking question and stop meandering like a woman.

Are command economies left or right?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1476 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:36 am to
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Not only economically ignorant, but illiterate I see
1. I told you the process will not always be smooth but it's still the right direction. 2. There have been multiple threads recently debating that those things are actually happening and not just propaganda against Trump. Some people are gullible that way
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1476 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:37 am to
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I'm not the retard who said rising inflation and unemployment were debatable, retard
Says the person who thinks we don't have a steel industry issue in relation to china.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1476 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:38 am to
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The Trump administration’s unusual step to make the U.S. government one of the largest shareholders
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TARIFFS

What is wrong with you
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:39 am to
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1. I told you the process will not always be smooth but it's still the right direction.


What do you call it when inflation and unemployment are both rising?

Simple question.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292726 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:40 am to
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THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TARIFFS


Sure it does. Its a comprehensive part of his central planning. Tariffs are the centerpiece.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1476 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:43 am to
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Are command economies left or right?
It's a stupidly irrelevant question because we already know that the tariffs are successfully correcting a serious manufacturing problem in our country.

You haven't addressed all the problems we have with China other than to ignorantly deny that there is a serious steel issue and to emotionally doomcast that inflation and unemployment are going up while failing to acknowledge that even if it's true, those metrics are based on numerous complex socioeconomic dynamics and can't possibly be solely attributed to tariffs
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1476 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:45 am to
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What do you call it when inflation and unemployment are both rising?
Prove the tariffs are causing this other than appealing to your teenage emotions
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292726 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:47 am to
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Are command economies left or right?
It's a stupidly irrelevant question



You know the answer and are too embarrassed to say it

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You haven't addressed all the problems we have with China other than to ignorantly deny that there is a serious steel issue



Worked in the steel industry for 14 years. I know far more than you.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 11:49 am
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1476 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:48 am to
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Sure it does. Its a comprehensive part of his central planning. Tariffs are the centerpiece
You can't be reasoned with. You don't think we have a steel issue. You think we can "not have enemies."

Levying tariffs to repatriate FOREIGN production and correct FOREIGN trade imbalances has nothing to do with the govt buying stock in a DOMESTIC company. Nothing.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1476 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:51 am to
I noticed that you're trying to circumvent issues with China by asking an academic question. Why is that?

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You know the answer and are too embarrassed to say it
No, I don't care about your stupid academic question because it's irrelevant. I'm talking about the real world. The one where there actually IS a steel issue
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292726 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:53 am to
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Prove the tariffs are causing this


Inflation before tariffs

January 317.671 0.5 3.0
February 319.082 0.2 2.8
March 319.799 -0.1 2.4
April 320.795 0.2 2.3


After

May 321.465 0.1 2.4
June 322.561 0.3 2.7
July 323.048 0.2 2.7
August 323.976 0.4 2.9
September 324.800 0.3 3.0

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292726 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:54 am to
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No, I don't care about your stupid academic question because it's irrelevant


too embarrassed, like most Progressives.

I dont blame you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292726 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:54 am to
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Levying tariffs to repatriate FOREIGN production


Leftist.

Anti free market bullshite.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1476 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:06 pm to
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Are command economies left or right?
Why are you falsely equivocating tariffs with public ownership of industries? You can't produce a quote from Trump that that's what he is trying to do with the tariffs. Until then, you're just being emotional
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463678 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:07 pm to
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So fatigued, you start an entire arse thread about him.

Weird guy.


Note: this was AFTER he posed the same dishonest questions in another thread
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292726 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:09 pm to
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Why are you falsely equivocating tariffs with public ownership of industries?



Both have huge support from Bernie Sanders and are leftist policies.

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As someone who strongly opposed disastrous unfettered free trade deals with China, Mexico and other low-wage countries, I understand that we need trade policies that benefit American workers, not just large corporations. Targeted tariffs can be a powerful tool to stop corporations from outsourcing American jobs. They can help level the playing field for American autoworkers or steelworkers to compete fairly against companies who have moved production to countries where they can pay starvation wages.

Bernie Sanders
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 12:10 pm
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