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re: SIAP: Donald Trump Says He Never Swore Oath 'to Support the Constitution'

Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:16 pm to
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Not specifically on "Support" v "Defend" but on the wider question of whether the 14th amendment is meant to disqualify someone for the office of President.

Which, I agree with, the 14th amendment can easily be read to exclude executive offices. If that is the case then why bring up the politically damaging defend vs support argument? It's semantics, sure, but it is not great politically.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10936 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:18 pm to
SIAP Hillary said what difference does it make about dead people she was responsible for protecting.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8428 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:25 pm to
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And does that make you sleep easier at night? Knowing you've been duped by a notorious con-man?


Are you sleeping over at Aggie Hank's place ? This is the drivel we get from him.

I'm only on page four and your beat down has been epic. O have to assume you cannot read or understand our constitution nor its application nor any other legal Interpretation required for this OP

Where did you come from
Posted by teamjackson
call me Walnut
Member since Nov 2012
7082 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:30 pm to
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Where did you come from


Been here longer than you, wet nap
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8428 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:31 pm to
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, but literally nothing has negatively changed for me and mines when it comes to income, quality of life and savings.


Sometimes absurdity is show. In small amounts.

Tell me how your grocery bills have not gone up? Insurance?

How to tell you are FOS

Posted by teamjackson
call me Walnut
Member since Nov 2012
7082 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:33 pm to
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Tell me how your grocery bills have not gone up? Insurance?


I took the capitalism route and made my own money with little push back from the gubment.

Sorry, not sorry, that I "got in" when the trends had the trajectory for the market.

That's what we're all striving for, right?

ETA: Groceries aren't an issue since my employer scales/adjusts for inflation. Imagine that...
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8428 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:42 pm to
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ETA: Groceries aren't an issue since my employer scales/adjusts for inflation. Imagine that...


You are quite the piece of work. You must be young and very liberal. Spend all your time at sec rant and came over here a few days ago to say you were glad chauvin got attacked in prison and felt emboldened to come over her and spit your anti trump nonsense.

I'm not sure how your explanation of your boss raising your wages because of inflation conflates to not being impacted. Of course, in order to get paid slopping the pigs, your employer has to raise prices on the products that further raises prices. And I doubt you got a 20-25% raise to cover all the extra costs for insurance and of course presents unless you are making minimum wage .

In either event, best you run back home before the others on here co tiniest their beatdown
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:48 pm to
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Which, I agree with, the 14th amendment can easily be read to exclude executive offices. If that is the case then why bring up the politically damaging defend vs support argument? It's semantics, sure, but it is not great politically.


Did Trump bring it up in a campaign speech, tweet, etc? If so, then I agree with you. It has bad optics.

Nevertheless, I'm only aware of it being in the brief as one small part of the textual analysis as to whether 14A(3) applies to the office of President. IMHO, his attorneys have to bring it up on a brief of the issue. In most cases, the only persons reading those briefs are judges, litigants, and legal scholars. In those contexts, it may not have the same political impact. Of course, when the matter involves a President, people are paying more attention.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:52 pm to
At this point in the campaign, they're panicky, throwing stuff against the wall (in the form of accusations) hoping it'll stick.

During President Trump's term in office, we had Peace and Prosperity - now we have two ugly wars and American families struggling to make ends meet. It's a mess out there. We'll be lucky if we escape nuclear war.

Trump 2024 - Biden schemes for war and profit. President Trump schemes for Peace and Prosperity.

This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 4:03 pm
Posted by teamjackson
call me Walnut
Member since Nov 2012
7082 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 3:59 pm to
Hey, ding dong, I'm my own boss.

But continue on! Please please please fear monger me into your own little world!!
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8428 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 4:05 pm to
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ETA: Groceries aren't an issue since my employer scales/adjusts for inflation.


quote:

Hey, ding dong, I'm my own boss.


Which one of these is not like the other???
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 4:06 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 4:25 pm to
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Uhhhh, what?


Did you not say the NC_Tigah was a “gay” way of spelling it?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 4:32 pm to
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dukkbill


I always enjoy your input.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 4:34 pm to
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I'm actually serious. I haven't been better off under any other president. Y'all will take this and run with it but my life hasn't ever been better than now.


I think this is probably your first honest post in this thread. I don’t doubt you at all. I do doubt it has anything to do with Biden’s policies.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 4:36 pm to
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Thankfully, my track record in agriculture has been successful. Obama was president when I started the journey. Trump came along and it literally had no impact. Then Biden came along and it literally had no impact.
Good for you, seriously.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 4:37 pm to
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This type of post bothers me more than anything. Just because someone supports another candidate, typically DeSantis, in the 2024 GOP primary doesn't mean we voted for Biden.


I agree. I don’t think anyone is lumping you in with the OP.
Posted by uaslick
Tuscaloosa
Member since May 2011
1300 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 4:38 pm to
I’ve always thought the oath should be changed to include words that require adherence to the constitution.

The constitution is very well preserved, protected and defended in a vault at the national archives. Problem is, progressives have ignored it for over a century.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Trump was totally hoping for "Permanent President" status

quote:

Like totally dude. Like dude, that's rad, bro. Like do you have the first bit of like evidence to like literally support that contention though?

Like totally dude. Like dude, that's rad, bro. Like do you have the first bit of like evidence to like literally support that Trump wasn't totally hoping for "Permanent President" status
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98082 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:06 pm to
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Trump wasn't totally hoping for "Permanent President" status


You progtards are getting dumber as the tds intensifies
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27395 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:07 pm to
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"Permanent President" status


What’s the problem?
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