re: Should law enforcement be able to track people's movements indefinitely without a warrant?

You have no expectations of privacy while in public. Anyone is free to record you when in public view. You can thank the first amendment. Instances of abuse of the camera data should be prosecuted, though they won’t which is ultimately my issue with them. The government will rarely hold itself accountable and our citizenry is generally too well off and comfortable to do anything about it.

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Funny how your freedoms need to be stripped away to have safety

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Tell me what freedom has been taken from you

No it’s not.

Private investigators track people all the time. Their testimony is allowed in court. There is another world you innocent people know nothing about.

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I've got an idea. Maybe get your local city/parish/county council to establish rules that allow for easier firing of police officers that abuse the system.

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This just came to light regarding a couple of Oklahoma City police officers.

Both were caught misusing the system.

Neither was fired, and neither has been publicly identified.

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Sergeant suspended after internal audit

The Oklahoma City Police Department said an internal audit found that a sergeant used an official police database for their own personal use between December 2024 and April 2025.

The sergeant received a Class 3 reprimand, a three-day suspension without pay and one year of disciplinary probation, officials said.

Second officer received corrective action

In a separate case, the department said it received a complaint alleging an officer's use of Flock technology infringed on an individual's rights.

The department said its investigation found sufficient evidence to sustain the allegation of misconduct. That officer received corrective action, according to police.

Under Oklahoma law, public agencies are only required to release records if an employee loses pay, is demoted, suspended or terminated.

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Link to full story

Law Enforcement says.......yeah, sure, why not......you only have to worry if you are a baddie or.......you are a wife or significant other of a cop.......or a teenager who did something stupid a few years ago......or you have an expired license tag.......or a vocal critic of the blue in a particular jurisdiction.......or........

“The guy who raped my 89 year old mom was caught because of the license plate readers. He stole her car and they tracked him to a 7 eleven where he was trying to sell my grandpa's shotgun that he stole later that day.

The cops showed us the pictures of her car from the cameras.

When you have a crime committed against you, they are good.

I can see how they can be missed.

Maybe they can be up, but only can be used in certain instances like a crime or missing person”


It’s a shame somebody didn’t use grandpa’s shotgun on that guy.

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Tell me what freedom has been taken from you

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Maybe I am showing my age but I remember when the KGB was villified for tracking the movements, speech, and political leanings of every Soviet citizen. They were the bad guys and we lived in the free western world, because we didn't have that.

Somehow we have normalized that here.

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Absolutely not, which is one of the reasons so many cops are getting arrested and charged for misusing it

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Two things can be true.

The cameras are legal.
And people can be punished for abuse.

If there isn't a citation or court number, anyone touching data will be outed and punished.

Flock is not everywhere. You are only noticed “tracked” when you pass the specific camera.
Notwithstanding the outliers (no integrity officers), law enforcement does not care about you or your vehicle unless there is a specific criminal reason look for you specifically.

Now, will your 2019 Nissan Altima white in color show up in their search of a specific area where a 2019 Nissan Altima white in color was in the area at the time a crime was committed in that area - yes.
That still does not mean that law enforcement ever takes a second look at your vehicle because of other information they may have to narrow down the search for the criminal.

Home surveillance cameras provide a lot of information when looking for vehicles involved in crimes and are solicited from police officers daily.

A question was asked why regular officers have access to flock and not just detectives? Road officers quickly solve crimes because that can access flock type cameras immediately upon receiving a vehicle description.

In our area, multiple departments were able to catch 2 shooters and the getaway driver within 90 minutes because of the cameras. Thugs shot 1 person and the getaway driver departed without the shooters - police queue the vehicle and find it in the area last noticed it.

The shooters shot 1 person and carjacked their vehicle. He provided his vehicle description & license plate. Road deputy was in the area where the car was last seen and with assistance was able to catch both shooters.

Flock type cameras provide a useful took for the public’s safety.
Electronics have evolved over the years.
Each of us use that technology & information for our own personal purposes - internet searches of people, cars, pictures, addresses, employers, etc and don’t think for a moment about someone else’s right to privacy.
Why the double standard specifically about flock cameras?
If their is no reason for you to be noticed on camera, you more than likely are not being noticed.

Here is an example about someone very close to home --- one Parish over ...

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Louisiana sheriff's office employee fired, accused of misusing Flock cameras

?Updated: 7:49 PM CDT Aug 19, 2026

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