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Should Joe Biden be immune from prosecution for taking bribes while in office?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:44 pm
What about taking bribes after he's in office?
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
This feels like some non logical gotcha
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
gonna be hard to hold a dementia patient accountability. have you ever represented a dementia patient?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:46 pm to faraway
SFP is trying to play gotcha. It’s his thing. I wish people would ignore him and maybe he would disappear
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:47 pm to jamboybarry
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This feels like some non logical gotcha
It’s a logical gotcha as it’s the natural endpoint of Trump’s argument that the president has absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for acts taken while president.
The answer to the original question is no. Biden should not be immune and Trump should not be immune. If the president has absolute immunity from criminal prosecution, then that’s a major failure of our system.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:47 pm to jorconalx
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This feels like some non logical gotcha
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SFP is trying to play gotcha
It's not. It's a straightforward question.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
The activity in which Biden has engaged is arguably the worst of any President/VP in US history.
He sold out, via his evil, trashy spawn.
Far as I’m concerned his name ought to be uttered in the same breath as Benedict Arnold.
He sold out, via his evil, trashy spawn.
Far as I’m concerned his name ought to be uttered in the same breath as Benedict Arnold.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:48 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Why not answer his question? People don’t like the logical implication of Trump’s argument.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
How is the chief executive officer of the government capable of overthrowing himself? The accusation doesn't even pass the common sense test.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:49 pm to Ribbed
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How is the chief executive officer of the government capable of overthrowing himself?
What does that have to do with bribes?
Would you prefer something completely non-political like taking a minor across state lines to molest them?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:50 pm to Ribbed
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How is the chief executive officer of the government capable of overthrowing himself? The accusation doesn't even pass the common sense test.
What? The chief executive is not the government. An attempt to overthrow is an attempt to overthrow the government not the person.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
How is the chief executive officer of the government capable of overthrowing himself?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:53 pm to LSU2ALA
It's not anywhere near a logical implication of Trump's argument.
Trump committed no crimes. Joe absolutely did. That's the fly in the ointment that is this clowns argument.
Trying to compare apples to ostriches isn't remotely attempting to have a conversation in good faith.
It's a troll job, nothing else.
Trump committed no crimes. Joe absolutely did. That's the fly in the ointment that is this clowns argument.
Trying to compare apples to ostriches isn't remotely attempting to have a conversation in good faith.
It's a troll job, nothing else.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:54 pm to Ribbed
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How is the chief executive officer of the government capable of overthrowing himself?
What does this have to do with bribes?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:54 pm to LSU2ALA
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The answer to the original question is no. Biden should not be immune and Trump should not be immune. If the president has absolute immunity from criminal prosecution, then that’s a major failure of our system
Here is the hair split here. First, SFP your game is weak. As many posts as you have, you should be improving and not rapidly devolving.
Anyway, bribery is a crime in and of itself and should not carry immunity at ANY point. That’s what Biden has done. As for Trump, the left has contorted what they claim he did in epic proportions. If he was guilty of an actual crime in office, fine go after him. But the left has claimed things Trump did was illegal but that’s just their framing and obvious take on it. Not actually illegal things like they claim. Bribery is much more cut and dry.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:55 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Trump committed no crimes. Joe absolutely did. That's the fly in the ointment that is this clowns argument.
Assuming you are correct in Trump committing no crimes, it is not relevant because Trump didn't file a motion stating his prosecution was illegal. He only filed one saying that he's absolutely immune from the prosecution.
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Trying to compare apples to ostriches isn't remotely attempting to have a conversation in good faith.
I don't think you understand what is even being discussed.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:56 pm to Crimson1st
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As for Trump, the left has contorted what they claim he did in epic proportions. If he was guilty of an actual crime in office, fine go after him. But the left has claimed things Trump did was illegal but that’s just their framing and obvious take on it. Not actually illegal things like they claim. Bribery is much more cut and dry.
You do know Trump is charged with actual crimes, right?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
How is the chief executive officer of the government capable of overthrowing himself?
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yes. Unless he is impeached and removed even the shady potato
is immune. Thats why I believe he should be impeached and removed. And for me - that humiliation would be sufficient punishment, bc he’s definitely not the only one involved in this shady kind of contact.
Regardless - if he is impeached and removed, he can be prosecuted.
The immunity may extend to prosecution when the alleged crime was with an official act he took as president, but the constitution isn’t specific . Regardless - It is my personal opinion that there is a broad protection for presidents for crimes they committed while president.
He certainly wouldn’t be afforded the immunity if he were impeached and removed based on the utterly shady shite he did to become installed, or for shady shite he did outside of the course and scope of his being the president, which would be a nebulous line. He would, however, be required to be impeached and removed before he was charged for anything.
ETA - I’ve taken your ridiculous bait.
is immune. Thats why I believe he should be impeached and removed. And for me - that humiliation would be sufficient punishment, bc he’s definitely not the only one involved in this shady kind of contact.
Regardless - if he is impeached and removed, he can be prosecuted.
The immunity may extend to prosecution when the alleged crime was with an official act he took as president, but the constitution isn’t specific . Regardless - It is my personal opinion that there is a broad protection for presidents for crimes they committed while president.
He certainly wouldn’t be afforded the immunity if he were impeached and removed based on the utterly shady shite he did to become installed, or for shady shite he did outside of the course and scope of his being the president, which would be a nebulous line. He would, however, be required to be impeached and removed before he was charged for anything.
ETA - I’ve taken your ridiculous bait.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 1:02 pm
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