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re: Shellenberger on how absurd claims of a J6 coup was - and remains
Posted on 12/25/23 at 2:52 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 12/25/23 at 2:52 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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The funny thing is, 20 years from now, you will find precious few willing to admit to voting for Trump.
Current Polling data disagrees with you
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 3:30 pm to RedHog260
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speech Trump made that day
Way to ignore all the incitement before "that day". How conveniently we forget what all was being written on the Election Board on this very site leading up to that day. You people had already been worked up to a lather by January 6.
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How stupid are you to think that a minor three hour riot could force a remain in power state for Trump?
You'd have to ask all the stupid people who thought it would work.
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Exactly how could a permitted rally at the capital possibly violate any oath to the Constitution Trump made?
I don't know anyone making that claim. Therefore, it is a bone fide straw man.
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As for admitting having voted for Trump I can find very few of the estimated but not verified 81 million Biden voters who will admit they did so. Why is this?
Too early, I said 20 years. How'd that whole voting for George W. Bush go back in 2000 and 2004?
Bust as far as the speech "that day":
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...And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.
Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country.
And I say this despite all that's happened. The best is yet to come.
So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give - The Democrats are hopeless — they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.
None of that has anything to do with letting the Congress transfer executive power peacefully.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 3:31 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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20 years from now...Current Polling data disagrees with you
:areyoustupidorsomething:
Posted on 12/25/23 at 3:33 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Voting alone will not save this country. It’s going to take something severe.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 3:46 pm to JackieTreehorn
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Voting alone will not save this country. It’s going to take something severe.
Go on...
Posted on 12/25/23 at 3:47 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Worst coup ever. It would be laughable if they weren't still arresting people for just standing on the steps.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:11 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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None of that has anything to do with letting the Congress transfer executive power peacefully.
And none of that speech you bolded comes close to "incitement". Watch the deposition of Eric Swalwell in the Trump J6 civil suit. The exact kind of language has been used, on multiple occasions, by him. Using your standard should Steve Scalise blame Bernie Sanders for his gunshot wounds? Should we call Kamala Harris's tweet soliciting bail for violent rioters incitement? Trump's speech on J6 was a fiery political speech and nothing more.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:13 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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None of that has anything to do with letting the Congress transfer executive power peacefully.
If you think that’s something that’s supposed to trigger a coup then you’re a bigger idiot than I previously thought.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:14 pm to SCLibertarian
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Watch the deposition of Eric Swalwell in the Trump J6 civil suit. The exact kind of language has been used, on multiple occasions, by him
That’s (D)ifferent
Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:15 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:21 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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WildTchoupitoulas
You have no fricking clue. I was at J6. Twenty years from now this will be looked at as an obvious government coverup just like JFK or 9/11.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:22 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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The funny thing is, 20 years from now, you will find precious few willing to admit to voting for Trump.
You are an easily fooled individual. I disagree with your statement, I believe 20 years from now, you will find yourself on the wrong side of right. shite, in 20 years we won't be a country. If things continue as they are, there will be rebellion. As badly as leftist want to kill traditional America, they never will. What created this country and made it great is a spirit that says "don't tread on me". The same spirit that rebelled against the king of England will rebel against the modern day kings attempting to rule over us today.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:26 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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How'd that whole voting for George W. Bush go back in 2000 and 2004?
So elements of our government lied us into an aggressive and immoral war, leading to the deaths of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, but that same government wouldn't manufacture and/or lie about a domestic incident in order to get rid of a political enemy?
Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:46 pm to SCLibertarian
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Using your standard should Steve Scalise blame Bernie Sanders for his gunshot wounds? Should we call Kamala Harris's tweet soliciting bail for violent rioters incitement?
What about whatabout?
Maybe.
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Trump's speech on J6 was a fiery political speech and nothing more.
It wouldn't have been more, if there hadn't have been more. I'm not going to let you people snow me into forgetting all of what was going on leading UP TO Jan 6. His speech on that day was the culmination, not the only incident. Posters on the Election Board were already worked up to a frenzy, that's how I knew to tune in to see the speech and riot that morning before they happened. The friend I was 'telecommuting' with that morning wanted to talk about COVID, and then asked how I knew that riot was going to happen, and I told her about the Election Board. Hell, Trump's twitter account was nothing but inciteful practically the whole time after the election.
Don't take Jan 6 out of context.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:53 pm to SCLibertarian
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So elements of our government lied us into an aggressive and immoral war, leading to the deaths of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, but that same government wouldn't manufacture and/or lie about a domestic incident in order to get rid of a political enemy?
There's way too much to unpack in that whattaboutism, but I'll just say that the government didn't have to lie to us for those wars. They just got the same fricking people incited through patriotic fervor. They weren't hiding anything, it had been obvious all throughout Clinton's presidency what they intended to do.
Rebuilding Americas Defenses - PNAC
Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:53 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Don't take Jan 6 out of context.
I'm not. You're the one claiming Trump's speeches and/or tweets were incitement, when nothing he said leading up to January 6th was anything other than constitutionally protected speech. Questioning the election results is not a crime. Telling people to travel to the Capitol and organize a protest is not a crime. Even telling the protesters to "fight like hell" is not a crime. You'd be a hell of a lot more credible if you just admitted you think Trump committed a crime because you dislike him and his politics.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:54 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Love your PNAC link. They share your opinions about Trump and J6. Nice allies lol.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:54 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Marked to read later.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 5:07 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Vivek straight has said that J6 was an inside job.
Posted on 12/25/23 at 6:24 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Protecting your pre-defined position with your lies...
If Trump hadn't incited the mob
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