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re: Serious question for white male liberals

Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:05 pm to
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Rog, TX Tiger signed in to your account


There are grains of truth to some of his belief

Why do you think people who publically complain that the current president is an authoritarian nightmare just vote to give him warrentless spying power?
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:05 pm to
I certainly wish our immigration system was more like Australia and New Zealand. Most people here don't, though not really. They'll talk about the skills part and mumble past the part where immigrants make up a whopping 27% of the population, mostly because the skills list includes such arcane and sophisticated trades as carpenter and diesel mechanic.

Conversely in the US "skills-based" is usually a buzzword wielded by people who want massive cuts to legal immigration and therefore their ideal of "skills-based" is "I guess we'll take doctors if we have to."
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:07 pm to
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"I guess we'll take doctors if we have to."
yeah but what KIND of doctor
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263365 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:07 pm to
I'd rather just annex Canada and Mexico
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:08 pm to
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Stated many times, this board isn't in favor of almost anything European countries do these days. So why are you pointing out standards used by EU countries. Hint: To fit your narrative.

Hint. Because I'm using the places you fricktards fawn all over to point that EVEN THEY have the good sense to have merit based systems.

Wanna try again?

Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:08 pm to
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I'd rather just annex Canada and Mexico
You done did it now you liberal hack
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:10 pm to
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I'd rather just annex Canada and Mexico
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63766 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:13 pm to
First, I became educated and better informed.

Then, I found the ecynical GOP Southern Strategy to be offensive and anti- American.

ETA: overall, my views put me somewhere in the middle rather than solid left. In fact, when I lived in California, most people thought of me as a reasonable conservative. The Voice of Reason, as it were.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 4:17 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263365 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:14 pm to
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quote:
I'd rather just annex Canada and Mexico


You done did it now you liberal hack

Plus, tired of having to deal with surely border agents when I go to the Yukon.

Posted by OSqueal
Where ever the beer is
Member since Jan 2011
5405 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:15 pm to
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Conservatives seem to live this delusion where they can insult an entire generation, calling millennials a bunch of lazy liberal snowflakes, and in the next breath claim that the younger kids are actually leaning more conservative.



Is this the same millennias that want the baby boomers to die off already?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:16 pm to
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You write these entire page comments under false impressions. You take fleeting ideas and act like they’re true. No one ever said any of that. I said that the more cultural experience including world traveling tends to make people more liberal.


Perhaps.

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Liberal being open to changes and new ideas and ways of life.
This really not even true. The same people who bend over backwards telling us how we need to "understand" people from this or that country write books called "What's the matter with Kansas" or run around calling half the nation racists when a vote doesn't go their way.

These supposedly open minded liberals are nowhere near as open minded as they claim to be.

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but I see threads on here all the time saying “so I actually talked to a Muslim today” or “I met an illegal and talked about citizenship” and it ALWAYS is them being surprised about how well they got along.

I read that and wonder if you realize that you are actually citing an example of a conservative being open minded.

Liberals meet people with conservative ideas and don't have NEARLY the same reaction.

Hell. I once had a female college student find out I was conservative(after she'd gotten to know me and got along with me). When she figured it out, she reacted as if she'd just found out I raped babies. Then, she said, "but you're so nice. I just LOL'ed. Think about how insular you have to be to do THAT!

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Whatever picture Fox News and Breitbart have painted of “libtards” y’all have swallowed hook line and sinker.
And you see, now you're into your superiority complex.

It isn't an exaggeration to say that I have no fricking idea who comes on FOX when. And, the ONLY time I ever have visited Breitbart is if it has been linked here. But, in typical liberal "open minded" fashion, you can't reconcile that reality with your bubble.

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Also I would say traveling doesn’t make you necessarily smarter, but it gives you more experience in life and richer in ways others won’t ever understand.
It CAN give you those things. It doesn't automatically give you those things.

Moreover, ideology is a strong thing. I've traveled a LOT and it would be completely accurate for me to tell you that traveling has made me MORE conservative, not less. And yes, I admit that is a result of my own world view. Might I suggest, this occurs when liberals travel too.



Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17178 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:17 pm to
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Hint. Because I'm using the places you fricktards fawn all over to point that EVEN THEY have the good sense to have merit based systems.

Wanna try again?



So you're saying the places we've been telling you ALL AlONG actually have good ideas? Who knew...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263365 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:18 pm to
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found the ecynical GOP Southern Strategy to be offensive and anti- American.


Fortunately it died even before the Democrats changed positions on illegal immigration.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:18 pm to
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So you're saying the places we've been telling you ALL AlONG actually have good ideas? Who knew...



LOL

You're trolling. I'll let you move on to someone else.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14298 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:24 pm to
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Well, imagine how many goodies WE could hang out of someone ELSE were funding 90% of our national defense?

Absolutely true.

But who is forcing us to do that?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263365 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:25 pm to
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Conversely in the US "skills-based" is usually a buzzword wielded by people who want massive cuts to legal immigration and therefore their ideal of "skills-based" is "I guess we'll take doctors if we have to."


Conservative fear of mass immigration doesn't come from xenophobia, it comes from a fear of growing the permanent underclass.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:26 pm to
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found the ecynical GOP Southern Strategy to be offensive and anti- American.
Which is funny because in 2017, Democrats are OPENLY and ACTUALLY anti-American adn will happily tell you so.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:26 pm to
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Conservative fear of mass immigration doesn't come from xenophobia, it comes from a fear of growing the permanent underclass.
Technology advancement will cause this way before immigration will
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17178 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:27 pm to
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LOL

You're trolling. I'll let you move on to someone else.


I just repeated what you said. I think a light bulb just went off in your head and scared you a little.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 4:28 pm to
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Technology advancement will cause this way before immigration will

Quite the opposite actually
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