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Secret Ballots must perturb the p/c crowd

Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:22 am
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20119 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:22 am
Overheard some liberal folks at my kids’ high school complaining about the inaccuracy of polls. They agreed that likely Roy Moore voters are cowards for not “standing up” for their candidate. One finally said, if they can’t even admit that they are going to vote for Moore, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote. The other guy said, well that’s why they call it a secret ballot.

I was pleased that some sanity prevailed in their discussion, but there is no doubt that the pc crowd has an expectation that people state their beliefs and positions publically so that they can be identified, ridiculed, and demonstrated against.

If you voice opposition to progressive ideas, you are a white nationalist, racist, neo-nazi. If you keep your opinions to yourself, you are a white nationalists, racist, neo-nazi who is also a coward.

Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:23 am to
They fought like hell to get union votes made public. They failed but once again proved they work through intimidation.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 10:33 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54212 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:27 am to
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but there is no doubt that the pc crowd has an expectation that people state their beliefs and positions publically so that they can be identified, ridiculed, and demonstrated against.


Then let them come to my house. I can take it but I will also dish it out right back at them with no fricks given - guaranteed.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30900 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:32 am to
The only votes that should be public, IMHO, are votes made on behalf of others (like votes cast by Congressmen). If you're representing more than just your own self, you should be held accountable by how you vote to those that vote for you.

OTOH, if the vote you cast is yours and yours alone, then you should be provided the expectation of privacy. A "known vote" is an easy way for a government to identify those against the "in power" block and be removed.

IMHO, you shouldn't even count votes by district unless the race is specific to the district. Identify the location of the vote only as far down as it matters (state for President and Senator, district for Representative) and stop.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17192 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:15 am to
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IMHO, you shouldn't even count votes by district unless the race is specific to the district. Identify the location of the vote only as far down as it matters (state for President and Senator, district for Representative) and stop.


Exactly!

We don't need to know that 85.781352% of people on the north side of MLK street voted Dem while 43.7654398% of the south side of MLK street did.

That kind of detail is only relevant to gerrymandering. Gerrymandering should not be allowed in the 21st century.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30900 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:32 pm to
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Gerrymandering should not be allowed in the 21st century.


It should be outlawed... But the party in power (regardless of which one) will also be the one who can do it, and will therefor never vote to ban it.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84877 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:33 pm to
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Roy Moore voters are cowards


Well, this much is true
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23198 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:39 pm to
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should be outlawed... But the party in power (regardless of which one) will also be the one who can do it, and will therefor never vote to ban it.


It’s Supreme Court enshrined at this point, you can’t eliminate it
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