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re: Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God--WSJ--Eric Metaxas
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:32 pm to Loveland Tiger
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:32 pm to Loveland Tiger
Lectures on YouTube appears to be the limit of your educational capacity. Can't fault you for trying your hardest.
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:33 pm to Loveland Tiger
I'm not saying to quit looking. I'm never going to argue that we should stop looking for answers.
I'm just saying let's not cast stones if we live in a metaphorical glass house of also not having all of the answers.
I'm just saying let's not cast stones if we live in a metaphorical glass house of also not having all of the answers.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:35 pm to Loveland Tiger
quote:Uh oh.
There's no kingdom out there.
. . . . . . proof?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:35 pm to BBONDS25
still waiting...
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:36 pm to I B Freeman
quote:
I would agree fossil record might give rise to a theory but they absolutely do not prove evolution beyond the species level let along the higher genus level.
I am not a evolution denier. I see it in my business. Buy I have never seen nor have you proof one organism evolved into something totally different. Humans have evolved a lot but there is no proof that we arose from apes.
The fossil record in itself doesn't prove evolution is true, but it provides clear evidence of the kinds of significant changes you are talking about. The evolution of whales is a great example of this. We obviously didn't watch whales evolve from land mammals over millions of years, but the fossil record gives us a pretty clear record of how it happened.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:36 pm to BBONDS25
quote:
Haha. Yep no logical fallacy in your "arguments". I mean I said..try to make an argument without a bootstrap or a fallacy...you respond with a fallacy. Beautiful.
Still waiting for you to prove Odin is not the one true god.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:38 pm to boosiebadazz
Sounds nice, but I think you might be making the same mistake that others often do. That since we don't have all the answers, it must be 50-50.
I don't have all the answers, but that doesn't mean the probability that their god is real is equal to the probability that it isn't.
I don't have all the answers, but that doesn't mean the probability that their god is real is equal to the probability that it isn't.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:39 pm to asurob1
Waiting for what asurob1?
It is interesting that you write off intelligent design yet believe the universe came together as happenstance. Which is the furthest reach of the mind?
1) There definitely is no God and the universe arose from nothing
2) There must be some kind of God because the complexity of the universe and life itself would be statistically impossible to achieve from nothing.
It is interesting that you write off intelligent design yet believe the universe came together as happenstance. Which is the furthest reach of the mind?
1) There definitely is no God and the universe arose from nothing
2) There must be some kind of God because the complexity of the universe and life itself would be statistically impossible to achieve from nothing.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:40 pm to Loveland Tiger
quote:
Sounds nice, but I think you might be making the same mistake that others often do. That since we don't have all the answers, it must be 50-50.
I don't have all the answers, but that doesn't mean the probability that their god is real is equal to the probability that it isn't.
I don't think it's 50-50 and I'm not arguing that at all. Personally, I'm pretty agnostic about the whole thing and don't really care.
The fact is, neither side can totally disprove the assertions of the other. That's the only indisputable truth in this whole thing. The rest of it is just mental masturbation.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:41 pm to asurob1
quote:
Prove to us that god exists. Use evidence...not faith. Pretty simple right?
I tell you what Rob...you prove - to someone who hasn't felt Love and therefore don't believe in it - that love exists....and I'll prove to you that God exists.
The lightweight arguments from the no-God crowd are astonishingly simplistic...and this from the Nationally-renowned Td Poliboard.
My Mama used to warn me not to "cast pearls amongst the swine" (them who don't WANT to believe, for whatever reason...other than reason alone). Not that I condescend or disrespect any honest or even naïve debater...but come on guys...God AIN'T NO MAN, if indeed IT exists. The closet to God as Man was Jesus; and he was a half-breed!
Geez. I'm done.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:42 pm to asurob1
quote:Why? Does science make a claim one way or another in that regard?
Still waiting for you to prove Odin is not the one true god.
Does Faith make a claim as to proof?
Are you too confused to know?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:44 pm to asurob1
thank you for proving my point. Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:45 pm to boosiebadazz
I don't have to disprove anything. I claim no magic or supernatural truths.
It's the job of the believer to support his supernatural claims. I shoot them down. That's all.
It's the job of the believer to support his supernatural claims. I shoot them down. That's all.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:49 pm to Loveland Tiger
And science doesn't have it all figured out. And as far as we know right now, you can always go one step before and ask "well where did that come from?"
Until science can head off that line of questioning, it's an incomplete answer, too.
Until science can head off that line of questioning, it's an incomplete answer, too.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:50 pm to Loveland Tiger
Link to where you shot anything down? I have yet to see anything of substance from you. Just bootstrap after bootstrap. That is usually the mark of someone who doesn't understand how to effectively argue their point.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:51 pm to Loveland Tiger
quote:You've punched above you're weight class here Hoss.
I don't have to disprove anything.
If you make positive assertions as you have in this thread, those are yours to prove.
E.g., you said "there's no kingdom out there."
That's on you.
Prove it.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:52 pm to NC_Tigah
Yeah, I'm seeing a sophomore neckbeard Philosophy major who just found Hitchens or Richard Dawkins. Not very impressed so far.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:52 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
"there's no kingdom out there."
is not a
quote:
positive assertion
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:54 pm to Hester Carries
that is absolutely an affirmative, declarative statement. If we're talking proof, he put it forth and the onus is on him to back up the claim that there is "no kingdom out there".
Posted on 1/1/15 at 3:56 pm to Hester Carries
quote:
"there's no kingdom out there."
is not a
quote:
positive assertion
quote:You lose.
Hester Carries
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