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re: Scholars say pedophilia is a sexual orientation that should be accepted

Posted on 11/16/24 at 10:55 am to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 10:55 am to
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It can be (and is) studied with the offending population. We know they are disproportionately victims of CSA compared to the general population
Unless you want to go with all CSAs are caught, your conclusion cannot be supported.

Even you admit why…
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That population is largely unknown,.so we cannot determine what % of the total they represent.


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That wasn't what was being discussed, however.
Indeed. You seem to be the only one trying to support it.
This post was edited on 11/16/24 at 10:56 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 10:56 am to
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Now lock them the frick up.


The ones who offend? 100%

The problem is the non-offending population, especially how we can help them.

Especially the non-offending population who were victims of CSA, which created their psychological pathology.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 10:56 am to
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Nobody is accepting pedophilia as normal
So you deny this thread exists?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 10:57 am to
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She is specifically not.

Her argument: we have to accept this condition exists in order to study it and develop therapies to prevent abuse of children

Literally, Step 1.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 10:58 am to
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The acceptance is that it exists, not that it's normal
And there is the groundwork for Step 2.
Posted by Audustxx
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:00 am to
I scare myself thinking what I would/ may do to someone who touched my grandchildren
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:00 am to
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Unless you want to go with all CSAs are caught, your conclusion cannot be supported.


No. I specifically gave the cohorts. There is a set population of prosecuted offenders and we can compare them to the general population.

We can draw conclusions based on these populations

I already said we can't get full data on the non-offending population and the population of victims of CSA. That's the point.

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:00 am to
This behavior is nothing new. Nor is studying it. Study right now is happening all over the world as we speak. As we have been studying fires forever so too do we learn and prevent. And if you start fires we end you. I don't need a egghead to tell me of acceptance concerning pedos. I won't. They exist and I want them all removed from society. She speaks like this is a new discovery. Stupid.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:01 am to
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So you deny this thread exists?


Who accepted pedophilia as normal?

Nobody in the thread did

The 2 "scholars" in OP didn't

The dishonest chyron did, but it's dishonest and only serves to prime people
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:02 am to
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I scare myself thinking what I would/ may do to someone who touched my grandchildren


I'm older and not the best health. There are no barriers stopping me.

Id rather those kids respect me in prison than hate me in freedom.



Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:06 am to
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We know
Posted by bengalman
In da Country
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:06 am to
Its obvious that "Scholars" can be failures just based upon this thought.

Simple fix is to eliminate them and the problem is gone.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:06 am to
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We can draw conclusions based on these populations

Only if you make assumptions you claim unable to make. I get it. It comes and goes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297291 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:07 am to
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Its obvious that "Scholars" can be failures just based upon this thought.


Society gives these people who have very little practical knowledge way too much respect.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:07 am to
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Who accepted pedophilia as normal?
I don’t know how to help you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466936 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:09 am to
LINK

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Results
Among 747 males the risk of being a perpetrator was positively correlated with reported sexual abuse victim experiences. The overall rate of having been a victim was 35% for perpetrators and 11 % for non-perpetrators. Of the 96 females, 43% had been victims but only one was a perpetrator. A high percentage of male subjects abused in childhood by a female relative became perpetrators. Having been a victim was a strong predictor of becoming a perpetrator, as was an index of parental loss in childhood.

Conclusions
The data support the notion of a victim-to-victimiser cycle in a minority of male perpetrators but not among the female victims studied. Sexual abuse by a female in childhood may be a risk factor for a cycle of abuse in males.


There is more research just FYI
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:11 am to
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Only if you make assumptions you claim unable to make

No. There are 2 different analyses going on

I spoke of one and you keep referencing a different one.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466936 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:12 am to
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don’t know how to help you.

Answering the question

Because nobody has accepted it as normal or defended offenders, etc.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13780 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:18 am to
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Because nobody has accepted it as normal


Yeah... like nobody used to accept trannies as normal, people willfully changing their genders and chopping off body parts as normal, giving people as young as 10 puberty blockers as normal either... and yet here we are.

"Well, ackually, they aren't accepting it as normal."

Yeah, but they damn well are trying to start down that road by even starting the conversation that is is a sexual orientation that should be accepted. That's a road we gotta blow up before they even attempt to drive down it.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13705 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 11:18 am to
These scholars should be arrested
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