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re: Sabbateanism and Frankism

Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:11 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:11 am to
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No, it seems to be based on noticing who is pushing for globalist policies.

Which is the malleability (both in terms of what "globalist policies" means and who "who" is, which is often "the Jews")

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Some nazi guy no one's ever heard of said it once, so whenever it gets brought up and assigned to Voltaire,

The Neo-Nazi is the one who started this particular meme.

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It actually originates from the Roman historian Tacitus

Can you cite the source of this? I just did some light research and they debunked this claim. Seems the attribution is similar to the Voltaire reference above.

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The place that was built by jewish gangsters?


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So they're devoutly religious but still capable of noticing things.






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That doesn't make them retards.

It makes them intellectually inconsistent at best.

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The Q shite does, though, so if antisemitic Q tards are even a thing,

A lot of the trolling 4chan intended with Q was just stealing antisemitic, David Icke stupidity and making it contemporary.

It's the same meme over and over and over again. It pops up every decade or so with a new package. Same shite at heart.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:13 am to
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A lot of the trolling 4chan intended with Q was just stealing antisemitic, David Icke stupidity and making it contemporary.

You're so far behind you're convinced you're winning. It's quite remarkable.
Posted by jrobic4
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:20 am to
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I hope you'll consider what I've said and do some more research. Let us not talk falsely now. The hour's getting late


Spending hours on conspiracy websites does not constitute research.

I do agree that evil exists and a spiritual battle is raging, but the argument "the other side is doing the work of the devil" has been used as long as people have practiced religion

Edit: Quoting the lyrics of a Jimi song is not a good way to get people to take you seriously
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:21 am to
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You're so far behind you're convinced you're winning. It's quite remarkable.



Says the man who implies a lot but never says anything

#doyourownresearch
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:34 am to
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The Neo-Nazi is the one who started this particular meme.



Seriously, not that it matters. Whether said by some obscure nazi or a Roman historian, it's still true.
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David Icke
The lizard alien guy?
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It's the same meme over and over and over again. It pops up every decade or so with a new package
Actually, it seems like the Bolsheviks all over again.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:02 am to
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antisemitic, David Icke


Is there a mainstream position you don't parrot? Not wanting a government with advanced technology to murder unarmed civilians, which is all Icke has ever supported, is now considered antisemitic to the easily brainwashed.

You're just repeating the same dumb talking points as the "fact checkers" at Wikipedia, snopes, politifact, etc. It's always hilarious that the people that think they are the smartest simply regurgitate all the "facts" put out by the establishment. Thinking for yourself used to be encouraged. Now, people consider themselves intelligent for believing everything they are told.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:19 am to
The OP is too much truth for most people to handle. They prefer the familiarity and dancing shadows of the cave. I've seen it several times in my life. Normally intelligent people just shut down and refuse to accept evidence that shatters their idyllic worldview. I was once one of those people. Thankfully, I had someone who wasn't swayed by the brainless masses and continued to speak the truth. You have to be willing to accept that what you've been taught is wrong, and most people just can't do that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:09 am to
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The lizard alien guy?

Well that's where it started, but basically Q just parroted his stupidity. I think Icke has rejected the lizard theory and now calls it "the Illuminati"

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Actually, it seems like the Bolsheviks all over again.

There is a Jewish conspiracy about the Bolsheviks, too.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:10 am to
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Not wanting a government with advanced technology to murder unarmed civilians, which is all Icke has ever supported,

That's ALL he's ever supported? What about claimed?

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Thinking for yourself used to be encouraged.

Parroting someone like David Icke is the Platonic Ideal of "thinking for yourself"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:10 am to
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Thankfully, I had someone who wasn't swayed by the brainless masses and continued to speak the truth.


What is "the truth" in the above quote?

How does that truth relate to OP?

Please be specific
Posted by Leotiger725
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:57 am to
These people aren't ready to hear and accept what youre saying

But it is the truth
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:24 pm to
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These people aren't ready to hear and accept what youre saying

But it is the truth


What is "the truth" in the above quote?

How does that truth relate to OP?

Please be specific
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:29 pm to
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There is a Jewish conspiracy about the Bolsheviks, too.

You mean that most of them were jews? No, that one's true.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:35 pm to
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You mean that most of them were jews? No, that one's true.

Well there is that, and then there is trying to tie them together in a larger conspiracy/elite cabal, relying on Bolshevism for some nefarious goal.

Lots of philosophers were Jewish, of all sorts. Historically, European Jewish people were highly educated and valued intelligence-based endeavors. Bolshevism being created by Jews

Why are so many philsoophers jewish?

Clearly with all of the banking CTs, plenty of Jews aren't exactly sympatico with Communism, in the larger picture
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:37 pm to
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Well that's where it started, but basically Q just parroted his stupidity.

Please share specific posts where Q shared any of Icke's particular brand of nonsense. I feel like learning something new today.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:01 pm to
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However, there are a lot of MAGA types who are pro-Israel but also believe in the Jewish influence in "globalization" or the "elites". I have never claimed that a large portion of this group is either intelligent or intellectually consistent. They are NPCs who repeat what they're told to repeat.


You also sometimes see this explained as coming from millenarian or even radical apocalyptic beliefs, that these folks are really cheering for the coming of prophesied cataclysm from the struggle between good and evil in the holy land, and good of course spiritual and/or earthly utopia afterwards.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:05 pm to
It would probably help if they haven't openly stated that they hide behind the "Antisemitism" argument as a matter of form.



The word's lost its meaning as much as "racism" has.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:16 pm to
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You also sometimes see this explained as coming from millenarian or even radical apocalyptic beliefs, that these folks are really cheering for the coming of prophesied cataclysm from the struggle between good and evil in the holy land, and good of course spiritual and/or earthly utopia afterwards.


This is why Q was like a moth to flame for evangelical boomer-types.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:17 pm to
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It would probably help if they haven't openly stated that they hide behind the "Antisemitism" argument as a matter of form.


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The word's lost its meaning as much as "racism" has.


We're not talking about people being critical of Israel's treatment of Palestinians. Not with the OP presented.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:25 pm to
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We're not talking about people being critical of Israel's treatment of Palestinians

Good, neither am I. They use the antisemitism defense as a shield from all criticism. You see it with Soros, Schwab and the rest.

"Globalism is merely antisemitism with nationalist origins," etc.

There couldn't POSSIBLY be anything nefarious planned by a cadre of Bond villains who all just happen to claim to be Jewish. Quit making shite up...

3% of the US population, and 30% of the Top 100 of the Forbes 400. Seems legit.
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