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Rumbles that Barr is gonna reject Horowitz’s Opinion
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:43 pm
Sorry about the WAPO link- but here’s a cliff of contents:
In short, good sign that my Sexy Unsexy Old Boyfriend is doing work.
WAPO
Issue Presented: If Horowitz (as anticipated) declines to recommend prosecution of the people he criticizes in this report, and Barr thinks they should be prosecuted based on Horowitz’s findings - do any of you Polibarristers know if Barr/Durham would be precluded from prosecuting anyway? I can’t see how this would preclude prosecution, but I don’t really do any criminal legal work.
(incidentally, for those of you who may be paywalled out of WAPO the rest of this propaganda essentially just plants the seed that Barr would be Orange Man Bad/meanie pants for prosecutions, but doesn’t explain whether such would be actually, legally precluded. Wednesday doesn’t think “Meanie Pants” is a legal reason to stop him).
quote:
Attorney General William P. Barr has told associates he disagrees with the Justice Department’s inspector general on one of the key findings in an upcoming report — that the FBI had enough information in July 2016 to justify launching an investigation into members of the Trump campaign, according to people familiar with the matter.
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Barr has not been swayed by Horowitz’s rationale for concluding the FBI had sufficient basis to open an investigation on July 31, 2016, these people said.
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Part of Barr’s reluctance to accept that finding is related to another investigation, one being conducted by Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham, into how intelligence agencies pursued allegations of Russian election tampering in 2016. Barr has traveled abroad to personally ask foreign officials to assist Durham in that work. Even as the inspector general’s review is ending, Durham’s investigation continues.
In short, good sign that my Sexy Unsexy Old Boyfriend is doing work.
WAPO
Issue Presented: If Horowitz (as anticipated) declines to recommend prosecution of the people he criticizes in this report, and Barr thinks they should be prosecuted based on Horowitz’s findings - do any of you Polibarristers know if Barr/Durham would be precluded from prosecuting anyway? I can’t see how this would preclude prosecution, but I don’t really do any criminal legal work.
(incidentally, for those of you who may be paywalled out of WAPO the rest of this propaganda essentially just plants the seed that Barr would be Orange Man Bad/meanie pants for prosecutions, but doesn’t explain whether such would be actually, legally precluded. Wednesday doesn’t think “Meanie Pants” is a legal reason to stop him).
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:45 pm to Wednesday
We are watching a movie. December should be HOT with new information.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:45 pm to Wednesday
Dont trust anything WAPO says . That is all.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:46 pm to DreauxB2015
I wouldn’t trust anything WAPO says if it’s Negative Trump; however this seems to sugarcoat something that would be Positive Trump so WAPO can tolerate saying it out loud.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:48 pm to Wednesday
Technically Barr can wipe his arse with the IG report and prosecute anyone he wants.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:49 pm to Wednesday
Trust Wray
Trust Mueller
Trust Sessions
In all seriousness though, if this is true, Horowitz is about to get the Comey treatment. He is about to become the left's hero.
"Unbiased, neutral, non partisan man of honor who heads the IG department, Michael Horowitz, is being attacked by Trump's hand picked attack dog"
Trust Mueller
Trust Sessions
In all seriousness though, if this is true, Horowitz is about to get the Comey treatment. He is about to become the left's hero.
"Unbiased, neutral, non partisan man of honor who heads the IG department, Michael Horowitz, is being attacked by Trump's hand picked attack dog"
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:50 pm to Wednesday
If Horrowitz doesn't recommend prosecutions or even Durham looking into criminality....the country will stay split on this issue.
Liberals/MSM will make claim that Barr/Durham investigation is all about politics.
Liberals/MSM will make claim that Barr/Durham investigation is all about politics.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:50 pm to Wednesday
1. It's WaPo.
2. IG report not available to public yet
The MSM is NOTORIOUS for lying ahead of these kinds of things.
They'd bold-face lie to their dying grandmother.
2. IG report not available to public yet
The MSM is NOTORIOUS for lying ahead of these kinds of things.
They'd bold-face lie to their dying grandmother.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:52 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
quote:
being attacked by Trump's hand picked attack dog"
That's the angle they will go with...the IG didn't find anything illegal and if Barr goes ahead with a deeper investigation, it will just be political retribution.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:55 pm to Wednesday
I don't see how this is good news
Am I missing something?
This makes it sound like the IG report will be a HUGE nothingburger
THIS
Am I missing something?
This makes it sound like the IG report will be a HUGE nothingburger
quote:
If Horrowitz doesn't recommend prosecutions or even Durham looking into criminality....the country will stay split on this issue
THIS
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:56 pm to TidenUP
quote:
That's the angle they will go with...the IG didn't find anything illegal and if Barr goes ahead with a deeper investigation, it will just be political retribution.
Does Durham have a Grand Jury empaneled? AG can take a deeper dive than IG. But the IG should know what happened. You can see how the right people can sweep any misdeeds under the rug. Why they would do that I can't fathom.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:56 pm to xGeauxLSUx
quote:
The MSM is NOTORIOUS for lying ahead of these kinds of things.
They'd bold-face lie to their dying grandmother.
Yeah, that's what has me thinking all of these leaks are bunk.
They had leaks that Trump was completely doomed by Mueller and he no doubt colluded with the Russians.....and the Mueller report didn't come close to saying that.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:58 pm to Bunyan
quote:
This makes it sound like the IG report will be a HUGE nothingburger
Correct. Full of evidence and undisputed factual findings.
Barr / Durham will the flatly ignore any legal conclusions of the IG that crimes or unauthorized spying did not occur, and use the statements these arrogant Deep State assholes made prosecute to prosecute them before a jury.
Or at least that’s what this indicates to me.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 6:59 pm to Bunyan
quote:
Am I missing something?
This makes it sound like the IG report will be a HUGE nothingburger
Exactly what MSM wants everyone to think ahead of the actual report.
We'll have to wait and see but I think they're just trying insert their lies ahead of the release.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 7:01 pm to Bunyan
Just for an alternate perspective, FOX's Capitol Hill correspondent said the upcoming IG Report will be " damning " in respect to the Justice Dept
Posted on 12/2/19 at 7:01 pm to Wednesday
People will only see Barr and Durham as partisan hacks if they stray away from the Horowitz report
This will give the media and Democrats TONS of ammo to refute whatever Durham finds
I don't like this...hope this isn't true
This will give the media and Democrats TONS of ammo to refute whatever Durham finds
I don't like this...hope this isn't true
Posted on 12/2/19 at 7:06 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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the IG should know what happened.
Same could be said of Comey with the HRC email scandal. He glossed it over to make it appear as if it was no big deal. If you aren't looking for wrongdoing, you won't find it. And the media will run the "retribution" angle 24/7. If that fails, they just fall back to the "debunked conspiracy" BS.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 7:06 pm to Bunyan
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This will give the media and Democrats TONS of ammo to refute whatever Durham finds
Durham won’t issue a report and testify to Congress. Durham will take his case to a jury.
What a jury says matters way more than Anderson Cooper. A jury makes people go to jail.
Barr DGAF what the media says. And it doesn’t matter.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 7:07 pm to OchoDedos
quote:
Just for an alternate perspective, FOX's Capitol Hill correspondent said the upcoming IG Report will be " damning " in respect to the Justice Dept
We heard that about a lot of reports. Then it's "eh" and no one is punished.
For this whole thing to change directions, someone who is seen as not political (Horrowitz) has to come down on the plotters and show evidence or at a minimum say something like "I went as far as I could legally, still seeing evidence of wrongdoing I ask Durham to keep looking into the matter. I suggested there could be criminal activity".
But even the word "could be" will be enough for the MSM/Libs to yell.
Horrowitz has to be the person to swing people's views on this whole matter.
EDIT:The fact that the MSM hasn't really attacked Horrowitz yet has me thinking that the report might just be a dude....unfortunately.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 7:08 pm
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