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Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:01 pm to supatigah
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WTF is the point of all of this?
Whether there is provocation by Kyle for jury to consider on some of charges.
Legal nonsense that should be trumped by common sense.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:01 pm to jatilen
Judge needs to get control of this. The longer this drags on the worse I feel.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:01 pm to jatilen
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Judge asks Fat Boy to point out where Ziminski is
Then he can't despite supposedly reviewing this footage dozens of times. Which just proves it should not be considered evidence of the state's case.
This post was edited on 11/12/21 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:01 pm to supatigah
quote:
WTF is the point of all of this?
Rekeita is talking about this moment's importance
if this particular jury instruction they're talking about and this video is key to is thrown out of jury instructions... it's Rekeita's feeling there's NO WAY Kyle gets convicted on anything
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:01 pm to supatigah
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WTF is the point of all of this?
The prosecution is trying to convince the judge that this video shows Rittenhouse pointing his gun at Mr. Ziminski and that is provocation for the child molester Mr. Rosenbaum to charge at Mr. Rittenhouse.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:02 pm to jatilen
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Judge asks Fat Boy to point out where Ziminski is
Well..he could be called in to find himself…but State won’t do it.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:02 pm to RealDawg
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Whether there is provocation by Kyle for jury to consider on some of charges.
Legal nonsense that should be trumped by common sense.
Seems like a pivotal point. Apparently provocation moves the goal post on self defense and could help some jurors rationalize in their heads KR brought all of this on his self.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:03 pm to Sherman Klump
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Seems like a pivotal point. Apparently provocation moves the goal post on self defense and could help some jurors rationalize in their heads KR brought all of this on his self.
Yes, this is why they are having a big fight over this. Without provocation, the prosecution knows they are fricked.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:04 pm to KosmoCramer
that evidence is weakest thing ive ever seen.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:04 pm to rt3
quote:
Rekeita is talking about this moment's importance
if this particular jury instruction they're talking about and this video is key to is thrown out of jury instructions... it's Rekeita's feeling there's NO WAY Kyle gets convicted on anything
If the judge can't see anything, there is no way the jury can find beyond a reasonable doubt that this occured.
And even if they do think it occured, that doesn't mean its not self defense.
This is a joke.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:04 pm to KosmoCramer
They need provocation by Kyle to remove the self defense claim.
Without this vid that the state claims shows Kyle pointing his gun at Ziminiski, which no can say for sure it does, they have no way of showing Kyle provoked the attack.
Without this vid that the state claims shows Kyle pointing his gun at Ziminiski, which no can say for sure it does, they have no way of showing Kyle provoked the attack.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:04 pm to Sherman Klump
Rosenbaum was already provoked when he left that mental hospital.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:05 pm to Chief One Word
judge going back to the verbal threats Rosenbaum made 
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:05 pm to Sherman Klump
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Judge needs to get control of this. The longer this drags on the worse I feel.
The judge is running a circus. The defense should be objecting to the whole thing.
Defense counsel hasn't objected at all. (crazy)
This post was edited on 11/12/21 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:05 pm to Bamafan24
Judge bringing up the prior threats by Rosenbaum to Kyle beforehand. Fatlock looking flabbergasted and stumbling his way to reply. Looks like the Judge isn't convinced.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:06 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
Fat boy just writing his on story. Making shot up.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:06 pm to BayouBengal51
I can't believe the judge is letting Fatlock keep this charade going.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:06 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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The judge is running a circus. The defense should be objecting to the whole thing.
What are you talking about? They are, that's the discussion.
The jury isn't in the room.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:07 pm to jatilen
Let me make sure I have this straight...the prosecution is arguing that Rosenbaum started yelling "Gun! Gun! Gun!" due to Rittenhouse raising his gun and ignoring that Zimenski had just fired a shot into the air seconds before that? Is that right?
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