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re: RFK exposing more secrets by Big Pharma…

Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:37 pm to
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So when you admitted there are problems with the peer review process


Again, you don't know what the problems are despite how many times you write out these words.

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Again, get this, RFK jr is actually fighting FOR YOU against the political establishment who lied to you, stole your tax dollars for personal gain and nearly crashed our economy just for the sake of power. But, he's stupid



He isn't.

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Again, you're not too bright



Oh no! Little man is mad again!
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1649 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:38 pm to
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Again, his science is from politics. Not from science
SIXTY TWO GENDERS UNITE!!!!



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He thinks admitting "of course all humans have bias" is some sort of major concession
Keep trying to derail the thread genius. Maybe it will work one day
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:38 pm to
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What in the actual frick is this?


What is the issue, my response, or your idiotic leading question? Again, you can believe what you like, but I know for a fact that it won't be reflective of anything resembling what actually happened. You don't have the ability to make that determination, unfortunately. We both know that. Run along.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1649 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:40 pm to
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Let’s put COVID aside for a second. Give me a real-world example of this, from big pharma ‘cooking up’ the research to it being implemented at the ground level


Tobacco scandal???

Wow

Aside from that obvious example of how you're wrong once again, it could be said that ANY TIME a journal publishes something that was produced by unscrupulous means and is used by a doctor for healthcare, that would be an example. So you could just use ANY example of retracted or known false papers to answer your own stupid question
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1649 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:41 pm to
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I'm not talking to you
I'm talking to you
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:42 pm to
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Tobacco scandal???



Dear god, you have nothing else.

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Aside from that obvious example of how you're wrong once again, it could be said that ANY TIME a journal publishes something that was produced by unscrupulous means and is used by a doctor for healthcare, that would be an example. So you could just use ANY example of retracted or known false papers to answer your own stupid question



No, there are plenty of guidelines we use all the time. Give me a specific example of this process from the research that was 'cooked up' to those guidelines being actually implemented in the real-world.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21884 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:44 pm to
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What is the issue, my response, or your idiotic leading question?

I asked if you disagree with the notion that the CDC purposefully lied about some things during Covid. It was just a question.

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Again, you can believe what you like, but I know for a fact that it won't be reflective of anything resembling what actually happened. You don't have the ability to make that determination, unfortunately. We both know that. Run along

This is why I think you may have lost your mind. You don't know what I think. I don't know what you think. That's why I asked a question. Not sure why it has brought this reaction out of you.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1649 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:46 pm to
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I am sure that is what they tell you, given the persistence of ideation you seem to have. I say shite all the time to keep the encounter moving.

Yeah, those doctors who are still out there saying their practice was affected by the establishment narrative are just lying. They're intentionally trying to torpedo their own career.

You are dull

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If that is what you want to believe, have at it
Is he fighting the establishment, yes or no. The answer is yes. He's fighting for you genius

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I view it differently and will continue to undermine anything he says or does
That's because you have a form of TDS and aren't emotionally mature enough to admit it. It's astonishing that you go on and on about MUH SCIENCE but can't see that this statement right here is the antithesis of science. It's plainly and blatantly the genetic fallacy. Do you even know what that is? Why don't you type that into AI and find out

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They care about their health
So the people in these threads don't care about the damage done that caused an erosion of trust and how it happened? Stealing YOUR tax dollars to work against YOU?

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RFK was polling terribly by himself
Yet you know he's incredibly popular right now with conservatives. Why is that?

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so his reelection in the face of Dems bungling their candidate wasn’t that surprising
Oh yes, the old "he didn't win, we lost."

You seriously, seriously have emotional problems.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:47 pm to
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I asked if you disagree with the notion that the CDC purposefully lied about some things during Covid. It was just a question.



Re-read that question, slowly, and maybe see why I would take issue with it. Read all the words. Don't be dishonest.

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This is why I think you may have lost your mind. You don't know what I think. I don't know what you think. That's why I asked a question. Not sure why it has brought this reaction out of you.



Again, you offered a leading question and are trying to back away from it. And I am saying simply that my rendition of events will not match the one you want. That's also okay. If you want to believe that everything was 'purposeful' (which was used in your original question, I believe), there isn't any argument I can make that can disabuse you of that notion in particular.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57241 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:48 pm to
Some of the docs in this thread are so soft. They cannot fathom how much the medical profession has gone from respected to mocked. It’s a dramatic blow to their egos. They should hear the lawyer jokes out there. Thank god the went into medicine. Their fragile egos couldn’t handle those.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:50 pm to
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dramatic blow to their egos.


Nothing a little triple billing wont solve.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21884 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:51 pm to
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Again, you offered a leading question and are trying to back away from it.

I'm not backing away from it. I've asked it twice and will ask it again.

Do you think the CDC purposefully lied about some things during the pandemic?

You are the one backing away from it and I'm not sure why.

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If you want to believe that everything was 'purposeful' (which was used in your original question, I believe)

Why are you twisted up about "purposeful" - all that means is they didn't lie by accident or using information later found to be inaccurate. I'll rephrase the question so it doesn't upset you:

Do you think the CDC outright/knowingly lied about some things during the pandemic?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26949 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:52 pm to
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Do you think the CDC outright/knowingly lied about some things during the pandemic?


Good luck.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1649 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:54 pm to
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No, I am treating the toddler like a toddler.
No, you admitted there are actually problems with the process like RFK jr says. It's ok. You don't have to literally admit it but adults know that's what happened. Maybe when you get emotionally more mature, you can face up to it
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 5:54 pm to
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Yeah, those doctors who are still out there saying their practice was affected by the establishment narrative are just lying. They're intentionally trying to torpedo their own career.



The grifters definitely torpedoed their career.

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Is he fighting the establishment, yes or no. The answer is yes. He's fighting for you genius



Lol, no.

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It's astonishing that you go on and on about MUH SCIENCE but can't see that this statement right here is the antithesis of science. It's plainly and blatantly the genetic fallacy


He's operating in the political realm. He has produced nothing of scientific value. I'm looking at the entire oeuvre to make that determination.

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So the people in these threads don't care about the damage done that caused an erosion of trust and how it happened? Stealing YOUR tax dollars to work against YOU?



Well, I don't give a shite about them. I care about the health of my patients. Do you know how often a patient has brought up COVID like you psychos bring it up?

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Oh yes, the old "he didn't win, we lost."


What? The Dems did bungle their candidates. Trump was likely to win against most Dem candidates, regardless.

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You seriously, seriously have emotional problems.



Lol you dumbass
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1649 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:01 pm to
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You are so intensely stupid it is amazing you can breath
So when experts say that reviewers do have a part in the process, they're lying? You just can't admit you're wrong, can you?

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If that is what you want to believe
Did he just fire someone who wouldn't side with patient choice, yes or no? The answer is yes. The "doctor" said it was "risky".

But I totally get that your delusion of graduer would make you side with the authoritarian, not the person fighting for liberty

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Oh no, the little toddler doesn't like it when I tell him no!
Says the person who thinks they can read minds

Do you realize that you haven't truly, honestly answered a single question I've asked.

Are there problems with the peer review process, yes or no? If you say yes, you agree with RFK jr and he's not totally worthless. If you say no, you're contradicting facts. Good luck with that conundrum
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:02 pm to
Did they lie out of maliciousness, not in my view. Were they mistaken about several things, yes. Did they handle the communication aspect of the pandemic well, no. It's okay for public health officials to be mistaken about a novel virus as they learn more about it. Obviously, the proclamations they made that gave to impression of absolute certainty were massive mistakes. Like I said very early in the pandemic when I was in on a call with some people involved in the messaging, I don't think they understood social media and how it operated or operates. Who could fathom the degree to which certain people really took to heart certain statements as though they were intractable truths? Again, the people who seem to take it really seriously seem to congregate on reactionary message boards.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:05 pm to
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No, you admitted there are actually problems with the process like RFK jr says


We don't think they are the same problems or issues. That isn't the same thing. I have no idea how you think this is some sort of meaningful point. There are problems with literally every aspect of medicine to varying degrees. I can guarantee you that RFK and I would not find very much that we agree on about what exactly those problems are, or the nature of those problems, etc.. I'm not sure why you are having a hard time understanding this. I would not point to the bias of the referee in a review as being particularly problematic, nor one that would require RFK's insight.

Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1649 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:05 pm to
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Again, you don't know what the problems are despite how many times you write out these words
Ok mind reader. I listed them, in some cases quoting from RFK jr and you agreed that they exist. You actually agree with him but keep going on for another 30 pages about how he hurt your feelings.

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He isn't
Ok SFP

Did the govt use tax dollars to collude with big tech/legacy media/big pharma to control the narratives of covid? The answer is yes. Now you're denying well established facts
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:07 pm to

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Did the govt use tax dollars to collude with big tech/legacy media/big pharma to control the narratives of covid? The answer is yes.


Obviously they didn't do it well enough.
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