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re: RFK: Trump took a million dollar donation from Pfizer so he wouldn't be on vax commission

Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:02 am to
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40305 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:02 am to
Vocal Fold Immobility Following Vaccination

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Abstract

Objective: Vocal fold immobility (VFI) may severely affect quality of life due to dysphonia and respiratory distress. Many etiologies of this disorder have been evaluated, however the relationship between VFI and vaccination has yet to be explored. The objective of this study was to identify the relationship between VFI and vaccine administration.

Methods: The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database was queried for patients exhibiting symptoms of VFI following vaccination. Patient demographics and clinical information including presenting symptoms, time of symptom onset, laterality, outcomes, and adverse events were documented.

Results: Twenty-two patients were found to have VFI following vaccination. Of those reported, 13 patients were female (59.1%) and 8 were male (36.4%) with an average age of 48.4 years. Vaccinations for influenza, shingles, pneumococcus, and hepatitis B were reported. A majority of these cases were unilateral in nature (73.3%). Mean lag time from vaccination to symptom onset was 6.3 days (range 0-45 days). Five adverse events were reported, with 4 patients requiring intubation and tracheostomy.

Conclusion: Vaccine administration may be associated with VFI and physicians should be cognizant of this potential adverse event. This is a rare complication with less reported cases than other post-vaccination cranial neuropathies. The difficulty in establishing an initial diagnosis and need for specialized evaluation by an otolaryngologist may result in under-reporting of such events. Further research is needed to delineate the exact pathophysiology of this complication and determine whether a causal relationship exists.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8118 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:05 am to
At least it costs a million to influence Trump. Biden would sell us out for a thousand. Congress for a few hundred. Wonder how much RFK would cost if he somehow gets elected.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40305 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:06 am to
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At least it costs a million to influence Trump. Biden would sell us out for a thousand.


This is pathetic
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:07 am to
Ignoring that VAERS is self-reported trash, the report says 22 patients claimed to have VFI after a vaccination.

Super Important Question: 22 out of what?????
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:07 am to
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At least it costs a million to influence Trump. Biden would sell us out for a thousand. Congress for a few hundred. Wonder how much RFK would cost if he somehow gets elected.


Trump costs more to buy!


Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:08 am to
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the report says 22 patients claimed to have VFI after a vaccination.

Super Important Question: 22 out of what?????


So now you are saying that it does happen.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:08 am to
It seems like RFK is salty he didnt get chosen. He also doesnt provide actual proof of the mil.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:10 am to
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At least it costs a million to influence Trump. Biden would sell us out for a thousand. Congress for a few hundred. Wonder how much RFK would cost if he somehow gets elected.




Trump folks here literally bragged because DeSantis lost one of his biggest donors because he wouldn't change his positions or give him special access. Same guy who turned down his Congressional Pension and bought his own Health Insurance while in Congress.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:10 am to
Of course I'm not saying that. VFI = a hoarse voice. And the symptom was self reported. A horse voice is not = to Spasmodic dysphonia
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40305 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:10 am to
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Super Important Question: 22 out of what


Hence why it’s called rare

There’s a stigma around researching vaccine injuries because it’s a cash cow for pharmaceutical companies. There’s obviously correlation but it doesn’t necessarily mean causation. I’m not even trying to prove that that’s the case. I simply said that RFK Jr believes his condition was caused by a flu vaccine and that’s why he’s so big on vaccine safety.

I’m not an expert on this or a lawyer. You don’t have to believe me.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9405 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:11 am to
Yeah, RFK at 69 is way older than Trump at 77. He's in crap shape too.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:12 am to
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Trump folks here literally bragged because DeSantis lost one of his biggest donors because he wouldn't change his positions or give him special access. Same guy who turned down his Congressional Pension and bought his own Health Insurance while in Congress.


They really are the stupidest fricks on the planet.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8118 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:12 am to
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This is pathetic


The state of our republic is what's pathetic sir. I'm not your enemy. Pull your head out of your arse.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16567 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:14 am to
There is absolutely nothing that will make tCult turn on Trump.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40305 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:14 am to
You’re celebrating that Trump is slightly less corrupt than Biden

That’s pathetic. I know you’re not my enemy. But you need to raise your standards.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:14 am to
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Of course I'm not saying that. VFI = a hoarse voice. And the symptom was self reported. A horse voice is not = to Spasmodic dysphonia


Look at this cat simping for a vaccine that doesn’t work.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:15 am to
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Hence why it’s called rare

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It’s a common side effect of flu vaccines and that’s how he believes he developed it.

Make up your mind.

And if there is a connection between vaccines and dysphonia, of which the evidence you provided is terribly limited, I really need you to understand that dysphonia (hoarse throat) does not equal spasmodic dysphonia.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:16 am to
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Look at this cat simping for a vaccine that doesn’t work.

Please don't comment if you're not versed in the details. His argument is about all vaccines, not the covid vaccine.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28133 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:18 am to
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There is absolutely nothing that will make tCult turn on Trump.


And I get that; if you've watched him this whole time and are convinced that even with his warts he's the best choice, fine. All people are flawed, and politicians even more so.

What I don't get is pretending that the warts don't exist, and people twisting themselves into pretzels to defend things that they'd attack another candidate over. That behavior, not just saying he's the best choice, is what earns the cult moniker.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40305 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:18 am to
Okay well I’m glad you’re an expert on it. You can argue with RFK Jr about it.

I didn’t mean common in terms of it being widespread. I meant common in terms of it being reported many times. RFK Jr’s condition seems to be more rare. That’s the point I was trying to make.

Obviously there’s a link between the flu vaccine and vocal problems. Either way, it’s not my battle to fight. I don’t care what you think about it either.
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