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re: Restarting Coal Mines that have been shut down

Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:56 am to
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Restarting Coal Mines that have been shut down



Do you have a clue how this business even works?

#1 Mountain Top removal has replaced deep mines

3 guys with very large bulldozers is all you need (and the trucker top haul it away)

#2 Machinery has replaced humans

Mine workers in the millions a century ago has been reduced to mere thousands today.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 10:02 am to
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Mine workers in the millions a century ago has been reduced to mere thousands today.


Which is why re-opening mines will be a major problem.

Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60677 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 5:34 am to
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Which is why re-opening mines will be a major problem.



Exactly!

What we are being told sounds good but there is no really to the words

Even if we doubled the mining jobs in the USA we are talking maybe 10K jobs, not hundred of thousands jobs.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36994 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 5:44 am to
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Mine workers in the millions a century ago has been reduced to mere thousands today.


Which is why re-opening mines will be a major problem.

Did you even read what he wrote:

quote:

Do you have a clue how this business even works?

#1 Mountain Top removal has replaced deep mines

3 guys with very large bulldozers is all you need (and the trucker top haul it away)

#2 Machinery has replaced humans

Mine workers in the millions a century ago has been reduced to mere thousands today.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2090 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 5:46 am to
Wouldn't most of the coal moving forward come from large western strip mining operations? Less dangerous and much more efficient than burrowing under a mountain? Is underground mining obsolete, cost efficient?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 5:49 am to
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Did you even read what he wrote:


Yes, Its too simplified, and you folks are delusional thinking you will find the workers.

Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36994 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 5:54 am to
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Yes, Its too simplified, and you folks are delusional thinking you will find the workers.

quote:

Do you have a clue how this business even works?

#1 Mountain Top removal has replaced deep mines

3 guys with very large bulldozers is all you need (and the trucker top haul it away)

#2 Machinery has replaced humans

Mine workers in the millions a century ago has been reduced to mere thousands today.
You need to watch You Tube and some of the monster equipment they use in mining.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 5:56 am to
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You need to watch You Tube and some of the monster equipment they use in mining.


Ive seen it, in person. We have several mines here.

It takes more than "3 guys on bulldozers."

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
13759 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 8:05 am to
The problem with coal is that coal fired power plants were immensely favored via policy by Jimmah Carter, then reached their life expectancy between 2010 and 2020. It is far less expensive and quicker to build a natural gas combined cycle power plant without even considering permitting.

It would be great to export a lot of coal to the EU where they don't have abundant and cheap natural gas
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60677 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 9:31 am to
Modern mining = removing the mountain not tunneling or blowing the top earth off and scraping the coal underneath. Both are very hard on the land and saddle the state containing the mine with lots of defaults and government stepping in to make the land usable again (very expensive).
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73845 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:20 am to
You forgot " it's really hard work".
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14295 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 5:21 pm to
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I aspect you will

You WHAT?
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2447 posts
Posted on 4/13/25 at 7:51 pm to
Or the drive thru
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