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re: Republicans were the ones that wanted to go into Afghanistan and Iraq
Posted on 8/29/22 at 10:32 pm to PaperTiger
Posted on 8/29/22 at 10:32 pm to PaperTiger
Which issues do her and Trump disagree on? Besides election fraud? Name one issue
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 10:49 pm to sabes que
quote:immigration
Name one issue
Posted on 8/29/22 at 10:52 pm to FearlessFreep
What’s her voting record on immigration?
Posted on 8/29/22 at 10:56 pm to FearlessFreep
Would you agree or disagree with the statement that they are aligned on over 95 percent of issues?
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:43 pm to sabes que
215 (96%) of 223 Republican Representatives voted for the resolution.
83 (40%) of 209 Democratic Representatives voted for the resolution.
47 (96%) of 49 Republican senators voted for the resolution.
29 (58%) of 50 Democratic senators voted for the resolution.
They both sucked then and they both suck now.
I think it’s fair to say Republicans were largely pro war then and are largely pro war now. I think it’s also fair to say that there is a trend away from pro war within the GOP that has been evidenced in actions such as votes regarding Ukraine and the almost wholesale defection of Neocons to the Democrats. I think it’s fair to say the Democrats were split on pro war then and are largely pro war now.
83 (40%) of 209 Democratic Representatives voted for the resolution.
47 (96%) of 49 Republican senators voted for the resolution.
29 (58%) of 50 Democratic senators voted for the resolution.
They both sucked then and they both suck now.
I think it’s fair to say Republicans were largely pro war then and are largely pro war now. I think it’s also fair to say that there is a trend away from pro war within the GOP that has been evidenced in actions such as votes regarding Ukraine and the almost wholesale defection of Neocons to the Democrats. I think it’s fair to say the Democrats were split on pro war then and are largely pro war now.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:51 pm to LuckyTiger
It’s fair to say that it was the democrats who mounted an opposition against the war. Those numbers show it, and anyone who was keeping up with things remembers it. Republicans can try to gaslight people into thinking it was the dems, but it’s provable that isn’t true.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:55 pm to sabes que
I’m not disputing that Republicans led the charge and Democrats, including most all major voices like Hillary and Biden) went along with it. None of them should get a pass.
But most of that lot is one side now: the Democrats, and they are largely pro war. And the ones mounting an opposition to pro war, that used to be rank and file Democrats, are now largely America First Republicans.
So context of the past and present are both necessary.
But most of that lot is one side now: the Democrats, and they are largely pro war. And the ones mounting an opposition to pro war, that used to be rank and file Democrats, are now largely America First Republicans.
So context of the past and present are both necessary.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 11:56 pm to LuckyTiger
Most democrats voted against it, but yet you just flippantly say, “oh they were both for it and both suck.” One side sucked way more than the other.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:01 am to LuckyTiger
Explain how democrats are pro war now as compared to republicans? Biden got us out of Afghanistan. And republicans crucified him for it.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:07 am to sabes que
Yes, Republicans sucked more than Democrats back then on war. I think that’s clear from the vote totals I posted. But almost half House Democrats and over half Senate Democrats, along with most leading voices and multiple party presidential nominees, voted for war. That’s not being flippant to point this out as part of the reality.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:14 am to sabes que
Republicans crucified him for how he did it, which almost everyone agrees was quite the boondoggle. Some Republicans (Crenshaw, et al) wanted to stay forever and they suck because of it. There’s still a large pro war part of the GOP.
The facts that most all of the Neocons have moved to the Democrats, most Democrats are enthusiastically funding war in Ukraine, and the rising emergence of an anti war America First component of the GOP are signals of a paradigm shift in the parties regarding the exercise of American power in the global field.
The facts that most all of the Neocons have moved to the Democrats, most Democrats are enthusiastically funding war in Ukraine, and the rising emergence of an anti war America First component of the GOP are signals of a paradigm shift in the parties regarding the exercise of American power in the global field.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:14 am to sabes que
Sorry I need to go to bed now.
Cheers
Cheers
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:33 am to CaptEasy
quote:
OP,thinks there’s a difference between Washington Rs and D’s
^^^ fricking THIS! ^^^
Two sides of the same coin. All that flips is the role that they play.
They ALL need run out on a rail.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:37 am to TigerAxeOK
There was a huge difference in how they voted for the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 12:39 am to TigerAxeOK
Also huge difference on abortion and a whole myriad of issues.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 6:09 am to sabes que
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Name the issues where she or Mitch disagree besides election fraud? Name them
You think I give a frick about two lizard people like Cheney or McConnell. Both of those controlled opposition big government DC establishment shitbags can die in a fire.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 6:35 am to sabes que
Cool, Bush/Cheney/McCain suck balls.
Also, they are NeoCons, not Republicans.
Also, they are NeoCons, not Republicans.
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