re: Remington bails on New York for Alabama

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bow down to your benevolent government. Amirite?

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Huntsville and North Alabama has to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of federal tax dollars in the United States....the people of the city and the area ALL benefit IMMENSELY from federal tax dollars....they have since FDR and the New Deal....there is not a worse example of how bad taxes and New Deal Policies are...

5,000 years ago, Moses said:
"Park your camel, pick up your shovel, mount your arse,
and I will lead you to the promised land."



5,000 years later, Franklin D. Roosevelt came to North Alabama and told the people of the Tennessee Valley:

"Lay down your shovel, sit on your arse, light up a camel - this is the promised land."

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Remington bails on New York for Alabama

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should have got that for la.

Good for bama. Freak the blue states and their antigun and high tax crowd.

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but I know this does not jibe with the world view that all taxes are bad and all government spending is bad.

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I find it interesting you are so hung up on where the money ended up and its benefits instead of finding from whom the money was stolen and the consequences of such a theft.

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I find it interesting you are so hung up on where the money ended up and its benefits instead of finding from whom the money was stolen and the consequences of such a theft.

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I know dam well where federal tax dollars come from....they come from blue states like California and New York and wind up in red states like Alabama. These are facts my friend....

Ya'll seriously do not want to try to defend Huntsville or the entire north alabama region as some sort of bastion of capitalism. Hunstville and North Alabama are the worse case scenario for opponents of socialism.


The United States does almost everything bigger and better than anywhere or any other nation. In the case of Huntsville and North Alabama we have a perfect example of this....The US doing socialism on a grand scale and doing it to perfection and to the bettermemt of people in a wide swath of the south.....

Lotsa butthurt ITT over Remington voting with their feet and moving to Alabama.

Why ...because We have an Army base and a NASA facility? I wouldnt call it socialism. The US Government has benefited tremendously from Huntsville's rocket building prowess. I know a good many of these individuals, they are incredibly intelligent, hard working, and proud of their contributions to both the space program and national defense. Federal ROI in Huntsville is one of the great success stories of tax expenditures, not a handout as you imply.

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The US doing socialism on a grand scale and doing it to perfection and to the bettermemt of people in a wide swath of the south.....

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Citations please?

the tva nuclear plant davis-bessy is on its last legs and is not held to the same standard as the southern co. Plants are.

the tva essentially confiscated private property in charge of the utilities as an act of political aggression against outspoken critics.

The TVA's formation was a Stalinist response to an impoverished region and it didn't help. Sans nasa and other fedgov dollars coming in it would be a backwater of ignorance with a gub'ment tva office.

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The US doing socialism on a grand scale and doing it to perfection and to the bettermemt of people in a wide swath of the south.....



Citations please?

the tva nuclear plant davis-bessy is on its last legs and is not held to the same standard as the southern co. Plants are.

the tva essentially confiscated private property in charge of the utilities as an act of political aggression against outspoken critics.

The TVA's formation was a Stalinist response to an impoverished region and it didn't help. Sans nasa and other fedgov dollars coming in it would be a backwater of ignorance with a gub'ment tva office.

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Citations??? Read a history of the Tennessee Valley my friend....I don't care if you know this information as a fact or not...you have the right to remain as ignorant on any subject as you would like.

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the tva nuclear plant davis-bessy is on its last legs and is not held to the same standard as the southern co. Plants are.

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This is pure bullshite. First of all Davis Besse is not and never was a TVA Facility. The fricking thing is on one of the great lakes for crying out loud. TVA's first nuclear plant was in Athens, Alabama (Browns Ferry) about 35 miles west of Huntsville. Browns Ferry was completely re-built in the early 90's and unit 1 was completely rebuilt and restarted in 2002 (?). Browns Ferry is FAR from being on its last legs....it is going to be running for many years to come.

You are correct about TVA plants and southern company plants....southern company plants are not in any way, shape, form or fashion held to the same standard that TVA plants are held to. If you have any real experience in the Nuclear Power industry you know that the NRC is the baseline. This is what Southern Company plants are held to....TVA, on the other hand, feels it should be held to even stricter standards and does so on most issues. I was a spec writer for TVA and for the SOuthern Company at both Vogtle and Farley Nuclear plants and I know this first hand and without any doubt. TVA standards are RIDICULOUSLY stringent....thus one of the reasons TVA plants are so much more expensive to run and operate. No one in the Nuclear power industry would ever try to make the claim that TVA skirts regulatory issues...on the other hand they are well known in the industry for going overboard in tightening up what is already a very tight set of regulations.

NASA and the Red Stone Arsenal are DIRECTLY attributable to TVA and the NEW DEAL. Read some history of the region my friend...it was FDR's and to some extent Henry Ford's intention to make the Tennessee Valley a workers paradise....and they did so first of by controlling the river, which made everything else possible, and electrifying the region, which sealed the deal. If it were not for TVA and the New Deal Huntsville and North Alabama would be exactly like North Mississippi....a barren wasteland of ignorance and lack of opportunity.

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The raping of the South the previous 80 yrs gave the north more than they've returned since the inception of the TVA.

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"Daddy got a job with the TVA.....bought a washing machine and then a Chevrolet...."

- Alabama - "Song of The South"

Ya'll can preach this bullshite all you want but people with long roots deeply planted in the south, and not those among us mere 2 generations removed from unionized industrial jobs in the rust belt who have migrated because their employers were interested in exploiting a non-union work force to ignorant to lay aside the destructiveness of racism in favor of their own self interest know all too well what TVA and the investment of federal tax dollars means to the region. We have heard stories of cotton mills and have seen the ravages of brown lung. We have known people who were sharecroppers and basically serfs, unable to even move off of land that they did not own unless their Lord was gracious enough to allow it. We know what the words in that song mean all too well and those of us who have forgotten are the ultimate success story of those words....like teenagers have always done we jump to the conclusion that it was our doing that brought our fathers south so far from where it was in the 30's....not something our fathers endured and did on our behalf.

If you don't like taxes I don't blame you...but do not try to take away what FDR and the New Deal did for the south....be grateful that the south is now on a equal playing field because of that investment and proceed from there. Otherwise you come off as hateful and uninformed...//