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re: Redbone's thread, as requested

Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:52 pm to
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It's the world we live in. Americans simply don't want to work


Missed the point. Raise the pay and they will work.
Supporting, or rationalizing, cheap labor is the world view of the slave owner.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:52 pm to
Why are people like you so dumb?
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:53 pm to
These people are coming here to work by choice. We're not forcing them.
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

Why are people like you so dumb?


Such a concise and descriptive argument. I concede to you, sir.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17116 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:57 pm to
Trump needs Patriots in both houses of congress to help him enforce his will. Right now he has treasonous pedos. So there’s that.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:58 pm to
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These people are coming here to work by choice. We're not forcing them.


Again...you seriously don't understand the point???
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19497 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 9:58 pm to
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Missed the point. Raise the paid and they will work.
Supporting, or rationalizing, cheap labor is the world view of the slave owner.


The only thing that should determine the pay rate of any individual is the skill set that person brings to the table. You don’t just “raise the paid” unless the skill you’re paying for is justified by the rate being paid.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:00 pm to
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You don’t just “raise the paid” unless the skill you’re paying for is justified by the rate being paid.


You also don't seem to get the concept.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:00 pm to
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3. Why does Trump need 5B to pay for the wall if Mexico is paying for it?

This is the most retarded take on this issue imaginable.

So when TX pays to build a toll road, it's not the drivers who are actually paying for it. Is it? I mean drivers didn't actually write a check to the construction company, did they? No way TX pays for that road, and is able to come out ahead eventually, huh?


Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:01 pm to
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Again...you seriously don't understand the point???


I understand it's a weird way to justify banning guest worker programs.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:02 pm to
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I understand it's a weird way to justify banning guest worker programs.


So you support slave wages in order to keep costs down and profits up.

Got it.
Posted by The Great McGinty
Member since Jan 2017
1384 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:04 pm to
As much as Prog/Libs love vagueness, undoubtedly you already knew the meaning of words are not so black and white.

Definition of pay
transitive verb

1a : to make due return to for services rendered or property delivered
b : to engage for money : HIRE

2a : to give in return for goods or service
b : to discharge indebtedness for : SETTLE
c : to make a disposal or transfer of

3a: to give or forfeit in expiation or retribution
b : to requite according to what is deserved

1 : to discharge a debt or obligation
2 : to be worth the expense or effort
3 : to suffer the consequences of an act


Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74643 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:05 pm to
Some care only how it's paid for and some only that the border is as secure as we can reasonably make it.
Be it made of sea foam or paid with Sunday paper coupons.
Posted by Fourteen28
Member since Aug 2018
1156 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:08 pm to
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So you support slave wages in order to keep costs down and profits up.


The guest workers who worked for me made between $20-$40/hr, depending on their trade. They made no less than their American counterparts and paid all taxes.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:08 pm to
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Be it made of sea foam or paid with Sunday paper coupons.



How 'bout if it's made with steel and concrete and paid in dollars??
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:09 pm to
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You also don't seem to get the concept.



They seem to understand your "point" better than you do, simply by showing it to be histrionic bullshite.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74643 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:10 pm to
As long as it's done
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:10 pm to
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The guest workers who worked for me made between $20-$40/hr,


If you employed them, I assume you checked their legality?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:12 pm to
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They seem to understand your "point" better than you do


Really?? What is that point, to the extent that you understand it to be?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85628 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:12 pm to
I think that from a persuasive standpoint , influencing people, persuading people- when you pose these questions, you just remind them that Neither Democrats or the Mexican Government want to Establish any effective border security . You remind us that Trump is aligned with the American people and American interests and the Democrats are aligned with Mexican interests and open borders. So please continue with this strategy, it’s highly effective, just not in the manner you assume.
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