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re: Rand Paul introduces sweeping reform of civil asset forfeiture laws
Posted on 3/17/17 at 5:54 pm to Sentrius
Posted on 3/17/17 at 5:54 pm to Sentrius
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Actually it should be after a conviction and ALL legal appeals in court are exhausted and there is no doubt at all about the defendant's guilt.
That's to far IMO. We don't let people stay out of prison until all appeals are exhausted, and your personal freedom is more important that personal property. If they are later exonerated then they can file a 1983 for what was taken (or should be able to).
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Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:10 pm to tide06
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Rand fighting the good fight on this one.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:22 pm to joeyb147
No surprise Rand is the one to initiate this, since he's one of the few who maintains his principles, and actually tries to decrease government overreach.
Unfortunately, I don't think many know much about CAF, and the legislation probably won't get the attention it deserves. Hopefully, I'm wrong, or better yet, it passes.
Unfortunately, I don't think many know much about CAF, and the legislation probably won't get the attention it deserves. Hopefully, I'm wrong, or better yet, it passes.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:23 pm to joeyb147
Good for him. Hope it passes.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:26 pm to joeyb147
Now THIS is what I call MAGA.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:33 pm to joeyb147
to Rand on this 
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:29 pm to joeyb147
CAF is an abomination to anything close to freedom.
At best it occasionally deters crime. At worst it's literal highway robbery. It closes the gap between a traffic stop and robbery at gunpoint.
Even worse is the Faustian deal most police officers made to take the blood money. All that does is blacken their image in the eyes of civilians.
At best it occasionally deters crime. At worst it's literal highway robbery. It closes the gap between a traffic stop and robbery at gunpoint.
Even worse is the Faustian deal most police officers made to take the blood money. All that does is blacken their image in the eyes of civilians.
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:33 pm to TigernMS12
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If they are later exonerated then they can file a 1983 for what was taken (or should be able to).
Even that is too short sighted. There's currently no balance between what an innocent person in prison loses and the prosecutor that puts him there loses through misconduct.
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:34 pm to PsychTiger
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law enforcement loses this revenue stream expect the amount of bullshite you get pulled over and ticketed for to increase sharply.
Kinda like weed legalization? Hmmm.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:31 pm to Sentrius
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Sad thing is Trump will likely veto it if it makes it that far so hopefully they can get a veto proof majority with a majority of the democrats and enough republicans
Why do you think Trump would veto it?
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:34 pm to Bullethead88
quote:If Sessions wasn't his AG, I would be more optimistic that he wouldn't.
Why do you think Trump would veto it?
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:46 pm to Paluka
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I am glad to see Rand doing this. I think he has the President's ear and will be pushing harder on important matters as we move forward.
Umm Trump loves Eminent Domain so Idk
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