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re: Rand Paul demands Dems return money raised by "sexual predator" Bill Clinton
Posted on 2/8/14 at 10:11 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 2/8/14 at 10:11 am to NC_Tigah
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Rand Paul demands Dems return money raised by "sexual predator" Bill Clinton
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I've got an old image of Bill and Hillary playing volleyball back in college, but I can't copy/paste it.
This?
OT 3 WNHI
Posted on 2/8/14 at 10:18 am to NC_Tigah
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So, should Hillary be "held responsible" for Bill's behavior? Hillary enables Bill. She is to Bill exactly what Dottie Sandusky was to Jerry Sandusky. She is certainly responsible for that.
NC, let's be honest. Do you really equate what Bill Clinton did with various women, all of whom were adults and at least some of them consenting, with what Jerry Sandusky did with little boys? I think Paul's attacks on Clinton are fair game, but if he tried to equate him with Sandusky, he would be laughed off the stage and likely destroy his Presidential viability.
This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 10:22 am
Posted on 2/8/14 at 10:25 am to trackfan
quote:Are wou asking if sexually abusing women isn't as bad as sexually abusing young boys?
NC, let's be honest. Do you really equate what Bill Clinton did with various women, all of whom were adults and at least some of them consenting, with what Jerry Sandusky did with little boys? I think Paul's attacks on Clinton are fair game, but if he tried to equate him with Sandusky, he would be laughed off the stage and likely destroy his Presidential viability.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 10:27 am to La Place Mike
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Are wou asking if sexually abusing women isn't as bad as sexually abusing young boys?
I worded my question exactly the way I wanted to word it, and a simple yes or no answer will do. Do you have reading comprehension problems?
This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 10:29 am
Posted on 2/8/14 at 10:29 am to trackfan
quote:Is there confusion about the term "enabling"?
Do you really equate what Bill Clinton did with various women, all of whom were adults and at least some of them consenting, with what Jerry Sandusky did with little boys?
This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 11:21 am
Posted on 2/8/14 at 10:30 am to NC_Tigah
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Is their confusion about the term "enabling"?
Is that a yes or a no?
Posted on 2/8/14 at 10:35 am to trackfan
quote:Paul has stayed away from attacking Hillary on this.
I think Paul's attacks on Clinton are fair game, but if he tried to equate him with Sandusky, he would be laughed off the stage and likely destroy his Presidential viability.
Dowd and others have been slightly less shy in pointing out her actual complicity though.
Ultimately Paul's tact is about neutralizing the War on Women. Period.
He is managing that fairly deftly, so far.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 10:40 am to trackfan
quote:The equation referenced enabling abuse, not pedophilic sodomy vs assault and rape.
Is that a yes or a no?
Posted on 2/8/14 at 10:45 am to trackfan
quote:Sexual abuse is sexual abuse. No matter how many times or the gender of the abused. Enabling is enabling. So yes. I can't believe you asked the question.
Is that a yes or a no?
Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:43 am to NC_Tigah
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The equation referenced enabling abuse, not pedophilic sodomy vs assault and rape.
Even that's a nonsensical comparison because Hillary never enabled Bill, to chase women, he just did it when she wasn't around. There's no evidence that Bill ever chased women in Hillary's presence. On the other hand, Jerry Sandusky's wife was in the house when her husband brought little boys home and sat idly by while he molested them.
Also, your rape allegations is nothing but right-wing propaganda. Sexual harassment =/= rape.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:46 am to trackfan
You could make an argument that Hillary enables it by not leaving Bill. She knows he does it yet stays with him for political purposes.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:51 am to NC_Tigah
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.Paul has stayed away from attacking Hillary on this.
That's a smart move on his part.
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Ultimately Paul's tact is about neutralizing the War on Women. Period.
I don't know if you watched the Hardball video that I linked earlier, but they believe his motive is to make Bill radioactive, so that Hillary can't use him as a surrogate the way Obama did in 2012. They also think it's a way of building up his street-cred with the Republican base without driving up his negatives.
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He is managing that fairly deftly, so far.
He's definitely not shooting from the hip, a la Cruz, and I'm guessing that his advisors poll-tested this tactic before he decided to use it.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:52 am to trackfan
quote:Bill Clinton Bagged Liz Hurley—While Hillary Was In Next Room!
There's no evidence that Bill ever chased women in Hillary's presence.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:54 am to NC_Tigah
quote:Which of course requires this repost . . .
Bill Clinton Bagged Liz Hurley—While Hillary Was In Next Room!
Posted on 2/8/14 at 11:56 am to trackfan
quote:You probably should view the Broaddrick links posted earlier in the thread.
your rape allegations is nothing but right-wing propaganda
Posted on 2/8/14 at 12:18 pm to NC_Tigah
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You probably should view the Broaddrick links posted earlier in the thread.
Starting with the affidavit where she denied everything
Posted on 2/8/14 at 12:23 pm to deltaland
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You could make an argument that Hillary enables it by not leaving Bill. She knows he does it yet stays with him for political purposes.
I can see that. I remember a lot women being very disappointed in her for not leaving him, especially after she declared that she was a "Tammy-Wynette-stand-by-your-man" type of woman.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 12:27 pm to Decatur
quote:Actually, as you know, she did not "deny everything."
Starting with the affidavit where she denied everything
She denied Clinton made multiple sexual advanceS.
She did not deny he made one.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 12:34 pm to NC_Tigah
She could have phrased it any way she wanted.
But hey, maybe if you keep repeating it to yourself you can make it all true.
But hey, maybe if you keep repeating it to yourself you can make it all true.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 12:37 pm to NC_Tigah
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Bill Clinton Bagged Liz Hurley—While Hillary Was In Next Room
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But hey, maybe if you keep repeating it to yourself you can make it all true.
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