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re: Rand Paul against the tariffs

Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:31 pm to
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
4658 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:31 pm to
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Tariffs will have to be long term. If you need pictures, I can oblige.


Please show me how an industrialized nation suffers compared to others that are not. PLEASE.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282540 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:32 pm to
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Please show me how an industrialized nation suffers compared to others that are not. PLEASE.


Youre as dumb as STDtiger.

You still dont get it.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51460 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:33 pm to
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There already are Canadian, Mexican and Chinese tariffs.


The detractors for using US tariffs for trade negotiation leverage always leave out the fact US products face tariffs in the EU, UK, Canada and other countries around the world.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25379 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:33 pm to
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Yep. Short time pain for long time gain.


There is no long term gain because taxes don't create wealth. Taxes have never created wealth. You will pay more because you're now subsidizing American industry, and you're letting the Federal government decide which industries get protection and which don't.

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Also, in some industries it is very important to our national security (steel, copper, aluminum etc).

That's an entirely different matter. I'm all for protectionism when it comes to national security issues, but I understand there's a cost there.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282540 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:34 pm to
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you're now subsidizing American industry, and you're letting the Federal government decide which industries get protection and which don't.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
4658 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:34 pm to
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Youre as dumb as STDtiger. You still dont get it.


Thank you for the compliment. Oh and my dad can beat up your dad!!
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:35 pm to
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The tarrifs are reciprocal, which means we're only placing the same tarrifs on items that other countries are placing on OUR American products.


We have blanket tariffs on steel and aluminum, that by definition isn’t “reciprocal” because it doesn’t just target countries who have tariffs on us.

I really don’t understand how this is so hard to understand.
Posted by rileytiger
Surfing The Gulf of America
Member since Feb 2007
3294 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:38 pm to
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Taxes have never created wealth


Interesting? It got Washington rich. DOGE proved that.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:38 pm to
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Great opinion. Will not read again.


Good. Next time, take it a step further and don't bother replying.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25379 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:38 pm to
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I really don’t understand how this is so hard to understand.


Damned if I know but I've had some version of this conversation a half a dozen times now.

Flats: If you put a tariff on something it will cost consumers more.

PT: No it won't, because they'll just eat the tariff and not raise prices.

Flats: If the price doesn't go up, how does that help US manufacturers?

PT: It just does, cuck. Melt bitch.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:39 pm to
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That's some pent up rage, man. I'm sure you were happy when Biden was in charge, but things will be ok.


This country was fricked before Trump put Biden in the White House.

Nice try.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
4658 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:39 pm to
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We have blanket tariffs on steel and aluminum, that by definition isn’t “reciprocal


That is for national security such as ammunition, bombs, etc. it sucks we have to do that but it is necessary.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25379 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:39 pm to
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Interesting? It got Washington rich.


Yes, by transferring wealth, not creating it.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
4658 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:41 pm to
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before Trump put Biden in the White House.


Well that is a different spin on 2020. Did you steal that from Q?
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
11480 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:41 pm to
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Thank you for the compliment. Oh and my dad can beat up your dad!!


Let me know which sonic so I can attend the battle royal.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75338 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:41 pm to
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, and you cant win by making their morning latte unaffordable
Actually, Starbucks has done very well. Up 22% YTD.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84727 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:42 pm to
roger wrong again, shocker
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:42 pm to
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Warboo


Here you are, replying again.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84727 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:46 pm to
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DisplacedBuckeye


Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
70963 posts
Posted on 3/4/25 at 6:48 pm to
Yes. Your right. Let's continue to get f@cked for the sake of other countries doing better.
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