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re: Question for judges and attorneys...Where does your morality (if any) come into play ?

Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:28 am to
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He's very dishonest.


Sociopath.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466935 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:29 am to
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This discussion is predicated on them not being followed.

Go read the op again. That is not what the discussion is about
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:42 am to
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You still haven't received a morally honest answer yet?

8 pages in?

There ain't one.


Amazing isn't it.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:42 am to
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Government excess


So people think that’s bad?
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:52 am to
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Amazing isn't it.


Not really.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:54 am to
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I'd love someone to explain the morality of a 30-day response time for request for admissions.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:57 am to
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Sociopath.


I figured marginally functional autist.

He lacks any personal intuition.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297290 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:00 am to
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Government excess


So people think that’s bad?


I guess that depends on the lawyer.

CRT was born in law school. Many are absolute statists.

Look who makes up our govt contingency in DC. We elect lawyers who create more of a need for themselves through legislation and regulation.

Its the biggest crony job in the world.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:01 am to
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I think your questions assumes a predicate that does not or should not exist.
Do you?

So perhaps you can address the question another lawyer here has overlooked.

Did Binger behave ethically in the Rittenhouse trial?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26945 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:04 am to
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So perhaps you can address the question another lawyer here has overlooked.


Overlooked or deliberately ignored?

He’s already walked back his earlier statement about the law and morality.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:05 am to
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Go read the op again. That is not what the discussion is about
Unless you are an OP alter, you don't know that. You may want to frame it that way to deflect, but that your deal. Not the OP's.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297290 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:06 am to
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but that your deal.


I honestly think he has major holes in his worldview and cannot see things the way normal people do.

I'm still divided if this is a shitty act or he's really that sociopathic.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87646 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:19 am to
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I figured marginally functional autist.


That and being a sociopath aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87646 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:21 am to
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Look who makes up our govt contingency in DC. We elect lawyers who create more of a need for themselves through legislation and regulation.


Absolutely this.

It’s a self-perpetuating game.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297290 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:21 am to
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That and being a sociopath aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive.


Yeah, the symptoms probably look very similar. My older brother is a CPA, he's got the issue. But... he can deep dive academically.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 10:22 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87646 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:22 am to
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Yeah, the symptoms probably look very similar.


I mean, I agree with you. There’s a reason I refer to him as “Spectrum”.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466935 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:24 am to
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So people think that’s bad?

I think most people think it's good, sadly. Why our fedgov has gotten so big and our Constitutional rights have become so trampled.
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:28 am to
It is not immoral to defend a client who killed someone. Someone accused of a crime has rights that need to be defended. Otherwise you just lynch people in a mob, on the basis of an accuser who may have dark motives. You defend the process and the rights of a defendant, not his conduct. The result is no one fears a knock in the night to be hauled into jail for dictator’s retribution or unlimited bad reasons. If you cant grasp this it is not the fault of the judicial system.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466935 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:35 am to
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Did Binger behave ethically in the Rittenhouse trial?

It was unprofessional for sure, but unethical is probably a stretch. The judge also addressed the issue directly and pretty emphatically.

The larger problem was the judge being wishy washy about ruling on certain motions. Had he been stronger pre-trial, it's unlikely the door was opened, and, had Binger attempted the same course, THEN it would be in the realm of ethical violation.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:37 am to
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It is not immoral to defend a client who killed someone.


I literally brought this up earlier, with no response, either.

I have represented a person who killed another person. I got the charges dismissed. Was that immoral?
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