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re: PT Atty's - deep dive into the "4 of you think it's A, 4 think it's B and 4 think it's C"

Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:05 pm to
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:05 pm to
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Trump personally signed 9 of the checks issued. Each of the checks was cut from Trump's bank account and sent, along with the corresponding invoices from Cohen, from the Trump Organization in New York County to Trump in Washington, D.C. The checks and stubs bearing the false statements were stapled to the invoices also bearing false statements. Trump signed each of the checks personally and had them sent back to the Trump Organization in New York County. There, the checks, the stubs, and the invoices were scanned and maintained in the Trump Organization’s data system before the checks themselves were detached and mailed to Cohen for payment.


This all took place in 2017 correct?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:10 pm to
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Trump and Cohen created a shell company to handle the payment.


Was this alleged in the trial? Was it proven?

I find this from your link....

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The next day, on October 26, 2016, COHEN emailed an incorporating service to obtain the corporate formation documents for another shell corporation, Essential Consultants LLC, which COHEN had incorporated a few days prior.
This post was edited on 5/31/24 at 6:12 pm
Posted by ErikGordan
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:02 pm to
Were the payments bt Trump made to Cohen the lawyer, or the created shell corporation?

The ledger entries were entered as legal expenses. What would be the correct ledger or journal entry according to the New York DA and accepted accounting principles?
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Posted by LSUSkip
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 7:10 pm to
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Basically, mark guilty, regardless of actual evidence


FIFY
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 8:11 pm to
I think it’s a bunch of BS and there is no precedent for this but here is my understanding of what the legal theory was:

They paid Stormy Daniels and classified it as a legal expense. This is falsifying a business record. Falsifying a business record is a misdemeanor in New York with a two year statute of limitations which would have run.
There is another statute that makes it a felony to falsify a business record for the purpose of covering up a crime. This has a 5 year statute of limitations.
The theory was that he falsified a business record for the sole purpose of covering up a crime, the crime being campaign finance violations (which are federal crimes, not New York crimes). In order for this to be feasible, the prosecution would have to show that the payment was purely made to influence the election and was not made for any other purpose such avoiding family embarrassment.

I believe that this was bogus and a political witch hunt, but that is my answer to your question about the legal theory of
Posted by ErikGordan
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 8:30 pm to
If the payments were falsely entered as legal expenses can provide the correct ledger or journal entry? The assumption is that the payments were not legal expenses. Again whar is the proper or legal classification?
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