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re: Prosecutors are going to struggle to find anything the 'necks did that breaks a Ga law.

Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:22 pm to
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Did he steal form the house that day?

Relevance?
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:23 pm to
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GeorgePaton


When these dudes walk...……….and they are GOING to walk...……….it's going to be fricking epic!
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:24 pm to
You know George is insane, right?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:24 pm to
That’s not visual he was talking about. It was rednecks in a truck looking guilty and therefore being prosecuted.

Again, you want gang signs being enough for a conviction of murder or do you want a complete trial?

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know you’re trying to minimize this, because you feel compelled to right the true and biggest tragedy in this entire situation : that the news keeps calling him a jogger.


No. But there’s no repercussions for intentionally lying here so...
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 2:29 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:25 pm to
There’s plenty of posters on here who thought Arbery was wearing Timberlands and that pointed to his guilt.

Both sides do this.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:26 pm to
well you said
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And, when one is a thief, one can reasonably foresee the possibility of it turning out poorly.


Is he supposed to expect everything to turn out poorly for the rest of his life?

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:26 pm to
Sure. But we shouldn’t do that.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:27 pm to
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You know George is insane, right?
Perhaps.

But, it's still going to be epic!
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:28 pm to
Agreed
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:28 pm to
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Is he supposed to expect everything to turn out poorly for the rest of his life?


Oh, are you in the "he was jogging" camp?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:29 pm to
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There’s plenty of posters on here who thought Arbery was wearing Timberlands and that pointed to his guilt.
Needless to say, I've never said jack shite about his shoes.

(partially because I've actually seen black people jog in some shite I would never dream of jogging in)

Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:30 pm to
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That’s not visual he was talking about. It was rednecks in a truck looking guilty and therefore being prosecuted.


Let’s quote him:

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Two white men in pick up pursing and killing a black man. The visual alone gets a conviction 2020


Again, the “visual” involves actually killing him. Not sure how you missed that. Let me know when someone gets “gang signed” to death, and I’ll buy you a round
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:32 pm to
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When I was at LSU, on nice days I used to ride my bike down River Road and sit on the levee and do school work. One time a pickup came flying up on the top of the levee and a dude jumped out with a shotgun screaming at me, that I was not going to mess with his cows any more. I had no idea what the guy was yelling about and thought for a moment that he was going to murder me. If I had been close enough to try to grab his shotgun, I might have tried. It's either that or die on the spot. Fortunately the dude calmed down after about a very long two minutes or so and he didn't kill me. When a farking maniac jumps out of a truck with a shotgun and confronts you, the maniac with the gun is responsible for what happens next. He caused the entire situation and introduced the risk of death.

Were you a known criminal at the time of this incident with numerous charges? Did the guy holding you at gunpoint know your criminal history including stolen gun charges and was involved in your investigation in the past? Had you just committed a crime a few seconds prior to this altercation?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
150806 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:36 pm to
Isn’t that for a jury to decide based on a trial?

They just going to show the video and head to jury deliberations?

He was wrong. The visual alone isn’t enough to prosecute. Wtf is wrong with you people?

I’d not accept a beer from you. You seem annoying AF.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 2:37 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
76152 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:37 pm to
Was he robbing the house?

You kinda need to take something. Did he take anythign in the other videos?
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:38 pm to
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but Arbury's own choices placed him there at that moment and for that reason.


What choices?

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It merely means, you fricking are the CAUSE of the events that come after.


How did he cause these guys to jump out with a shotgun?
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:39 pm to
I read that as “compelling enough to bring charges”. Prosecute doesn’t mean convict. Certainly you would need more evidence than purely the tape to eliminate reasonable doubt. If that’s what you thought I meant, apologies.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:39 pm to
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The kid is jogging around the stationary truck because it's in the road. At the same time, the driver with the shotgun jumps out and they meet right in front of the truck. It appears instant and they are a couple feet apart.


The older guy with the shotgun was standing in the road well before Arbery made it to the truck.



I keep seeing people post that the older guy stepped in Arbery's path, got in his way, and even charged AT Arbery...where is this coming from? I'm not seeing it.

The one thing you can't see is where the shotgun is until they start fighting. How much does it matter if he was holding the shotgun but had it pointed down? Sure, open carry is legal but would it be considered brandishing by holding a shotgun like that? Seems like it would. If he had a pistol instead and had it in a holster on his hip and Arbery went for it, would he have been just in shooting Arbery?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
150806 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:42 pm to
I meant convict. No big deal. I probably misread the other prog as well. I just don’t think visuals are enough to convict and hope they never are.

FTR, the father and son fricked up royally. I don’t see how they avoid jail.

Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:44 pm to
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No big deal.


All good.

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I just don’t think visuals are enough to convict and hope they never are.


Same here.
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