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re: Preemptive pardons for everyone

Posted on 10/1/26 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
42405 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 8:02 pm to
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Staying out of court and prison is a major win.

You are seriously advocating risking freedom because of your retarded libertarian principles.


You are the one who wanted to take peoples freedom because of covid.

Now you are telling me I'm risking my freedom if I don't agree with allowing the people in teh government to do all that Covid type shite and get away with it.

And not just that, any and everything they do.

And I'm the one who is risking freedom?

It's like bending over for someone so you can claim you didn't get raped.

And all for what amounts to you having a fear of something that wasn't/isn't even the reality. If anyone was going to put people in court and prison - it was you during covid.

"winning"

This post was edited on 10/1/26 at 8:03 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42581 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 8:06 pm to
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Now you are telling me I'm risking my freedom if I don't agree with allowing the people in teh government to do all that Covid type shite and get away with it.


This is about the people being pardoned or not being pardoned. This subject has nothing to do with your freedoms individually, so why are you approaching it like that? 2 different subjects.

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And I'm the one who is risking freedom?


You are aiding the far left with your retard principles is what risks your own freedom, but that has nothing to do with these pardons. 2 different subjects.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
42405 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 8:09 pm to
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This is about the people being pardoned or not being pardoned. This subject has nothing to do with your freedoms individually, so why are you approaching it like that? 2 different subjects.


What freedoms exist when a government can violate them and then pardon themselves after?

We just saw it happen with covid. Now you are advocating for more of it.

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You are aiding the far left with your retard principles is what risks your own freedom, but that has nothing to do with these pardons. 2 different subjects.


You are the left.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42581 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 8:15 pm to
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What freedoms exist when a government can violate them and then pardon themselves after?


Their own personal freedoms are at stake. If they dont go to jail, they remain free. How is this so hard for y ou?

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You are the left.


I am very much against the left's culture wars on normalcy and America.

You arent against them enough to vote against them.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
42405 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 9:47 pm to
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Their own personal freedoms are at stake. If they dont go to jail, they remain free. How is this so hard for y ou?



Maybe their personal freedoms should be at stake.

Fauci belongs in prison for example.

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I am very much against the left's culture wars on normalcy and America.

You arent against them enough to vote against them.


You just want a different brand of social justice.

One that forces people into being vaccinated because individuals don't have the right to decide.

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
29283 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 9:48 pm to
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If any Republican supports this


I support equal standards. You don't?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
51935 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 10:46 pm to
We are a fricking third world country now.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
12433 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:40 pm to
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The President's pardon power is so encompassing that he could simply look at that camera and say "I am hereby pardoning... (Fill in the blank)"


If you dont understand how that is fundamentally different than someone else signing a pardon in his name via autopen, youre fricking retarded.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42581 posts
Posted on 10/1/26 at 11:59 pm to
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Maybe their personal freedoms should be at stake.


Not if the left isnt held to the same standards.

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Fauci belongs in prison for example.


Yep.

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You just want a different brand of social justice.



My brand safe guards you as it allows you to remain free from liberal nonsense, which includes DEI, illegals, Trannies, Commies, Muslims

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
42405 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:02 am to
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Not if the left isnt held to the same standards.


You've been advocating for adopting their standards.

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Yep.


Funny considering you were using him to justify you seeing me as a boogieman during covid.

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My brand safe guards you as it allows you to remain free from liberal nonsense, which includes DEI, illegals, Trannies, Commies, Muslims


Those are your fears, not mine.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42581 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:33 am to
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You've been advocating for adopting their standards.


I advocate to win by playing by the rules of the game.

You advocate to lose because the other side plays by different rules.

Insert some sports analogies here.

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Those are your fears, not mine.


You ignoring very real threats makes you irrational. Cant win if you choose to sit on the sidelines.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
42405 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:51 am to
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I advocate to win by playing by the rules of the game.

You advocate to lose because the other side plays by different rules.

Insert some sports analogies here.


You aren't winning anything.

Politics is not a team sport.

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You ignoring very real threats makes you irrational. Cant win if you choose to sit on the sidelines.


The constitution, aka the law of the land, already exists and it prevents these things.

You want to remove that.

You are the threat.

You fall for the same bullshite all other leftists fall for - you want the government because you operate under the illusion it will use those powers the way you want. Learn some history because that's never what happens.

This post was edited on 10/2/26 at 12:52 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42581 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 1:56 am to
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You aren't winning anything.


The people pardoned likely won their freedom. Quite the contrast to going to jail. Only a principled retard would choose to play with one arm tied up and risk losing.

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Politics is not a team sport.


This is about staying out of jail. Its like a coach protecting his team.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
42405 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:00 am to
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The people pardoned likely won their freedom. Quite the contrast to going to jail. Only a principled retard would choose to play with one arm tied up and risk losing.



Like Fauci?

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This is about staying out of jail. Its like a coach protecting his team.


Like Fauci?

You want to normalize that and it's bullshite.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
31242 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:03 am to
Full Stop

OK Gavin now go frick off
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42581 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:06 am to
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Like Fauci?


The left saved his arse with the pardon. That was the rule change.

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You want to normalize that and it's bullshite.


The left normalized it, and it would be dumb to choose to NOT play by the new rules. Insert sports analogy here. You must adjust to the new rules, or you lose.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
42405 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:07 am to
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The left saved his arse with the pardon. That was the rule change.


And you support it.

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The left normalized it, and it would be dumb to choose to NOT play by the new rules. Insert sports analogy here. You must adjust to the new rules, or you lose.


Again, you support it.

Your desire to insert sports analogies highlights you're a collectivist who views things in terms of groups rather than individuals. AKA, leftist brain.

This post was edited on 10/2/26 at 2:09 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42581 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:24 am to
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And you support it.


No, I do not support them changing the rules.

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Again, you support it.


Yes, I do support the right playing by the new rules.

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Your desire to insert sports analogies highlights you're a collectivist who views things in terms of groups rather than individuals. AKA, leftist brain.


Sports and politics are all about winners and losers. The Collective left wants to dominate by any means possible, and you want to sit on the sidelines while only crying about those that appose the Collective left.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
42405 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:29 am to
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No, I do not support them changing the rules.



You do.


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Yes, I do support the right playing by the new rules.



Now you just have what you think is justification for what you already wanted.

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Sports and politics are all about winners and losers. The Collective left wants to dominate by any means possible, and you want to sit on the sidelines while only crying about those that appose the Collective left.


You want to win by any means possible, you are exactly like them.

Including supporting the idea that the government should be able to commit crimes and then pardon themselves for it.

At which point there is no longer any freedoms for everyone.

You are a threat to the constitution and the principles this country was founded on.


Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42581 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 2:39 am to
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You do


The Biden pardons were BS, but they happened. Got to adjust to new rules, or you lose.

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Now you just have what you think is justification for what you already wanted.


Lawfare wasnt a thing until the left made it a thing.

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You want to win by any means possible, you are exactly like them.


Only a principled retard would choose the losing strategy in a game. You would go into a gun duel with a knife. No doubt about that.
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