re: Pope tells kids in Singapore all religions lead to God

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not the invisible church

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The term "the invisible church" is not once mentioned in Holy Scripture. You've got to twist and distort Truthful Bible passages to squeeze out that human invention that you call "the invisible church."

Friend, your Salvation is in grave danger unless you eat Christ's Flesh and drink His Blood. He wasn't kidding or being metaphorical when he said so IN THE BIBLE.

Here's a good article supporting this contention that the Church held from its most early days.

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I will pray that you see the spritual error of your ways and depart from the path of Lies and turn to the Truth of the Roman Catholic Church or the Orthodox Church.

God Bless Us All and God Bless Donald Trump.

Christ said “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one enters into the Father except through Me.”

That’s as cut and dry of a declaration as you can get. Jesus said these words in John 4:16. It’s one of the most well known versus in the Bible. Pretty much any kid who’s done as much as going to VBS has been taught this verse. The entire Christian faith is built on the foundation of this single verse. In this verse Jesus was unequivocally stating that the only path to God was through Him. Period. The fact this pope denies this truth means he is denying Christ. The pope is guilty of blasphemy. He’s become an Antichrist.

What’s worse is he told this to Children. Christ made it clear that to lead children astray was especially abhorrent to Him whwn He said “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea.”

If you’re going to down vote my post, at least have the stones to openly state your objection to what I said.

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The term "the invisible church" is not once mentioned in Holy Scripture. You've got to twist and distort Truthful Bible passages to squeeze out that human invention that you call "the invisible church."

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The term “Trinity” is not mentioned in the Bible and yet the term describes a biblical concept and teaching. So, too, does the Bible describe the Church in such a way.

There are those who belong visibly to the Church who are not saved. Matthew 7, and 1 John 2 among other passages like even Judas’ betrayal makes that clear. I’ve even heard Catholics say that this Pope is probably going to Hell. Whether he does or not, the statement itself demonstrates the visible/invisible distinction.

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Friend, your Salvation is in grave danger unless you eat Christ's Flesh and drink His Blood. He wasn't kidding or being metaphorical when he said so IN THE BIBLE.

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Salvation isn’t based on partaking in the sacraments but partaking in Christ by faith.

I also do partake in Christ through the sacrament of Communion (the Lord’s Supper). It truly is an effectual grace to those who participate in it by faith, but it is not Christ’s physical body. His body’s in Heaven. Nonetheless, He is spiritually present when we eat the bread and drink the wine.

It is you who are in everlasting danger by trusting in the sacraments, the Church, and good works of anyone else but Jesus Christ as the meritorious cause of your salvation. Jesus is the only propitiation for sin. I pray that you will one day put more trust in Christ’s atoning work on your behalf than anything else because only Jesus can save.

I would say none lead to God.

Religion is mans perception and his systemizing of spirituality.

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Your Pope believes Muslims have a more realistic path to salvation than Protestants who faithfully worship God according to the Bible and believe that Jesus is truly God and died for our sins.

You are absolutely vitriolic against Protestants and yet you act as though it is just the Protestants that act that way towards Catholics.

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You MUST continue to lie because you follow The Father of Lies and that is Satan.

Pope never said any such thing. Your whole Faith is based on the distortion and twisting of Truth. Stop lying you Liar.

I am vitriolic ONLY in response to vitriol and only in the context of the Theological War that is waged against Catholics almost every day here on Political Talk of Tigerdroppings. It's not personal against you that you are Anti Christ.

You are free to ignore the Teaching of Christ. That makes you Anti Christ. Christ's Teaching on the Eucharist, you choose to ignore. Can an Anti Christ like you still get to Heaven? I don't think so, but, that's not up to me to judge, now is it? That is God's Decision.

But, anybody who ignores Christ's clear Teaching on the Eucharist is subject to being labeled Anti Christ, at least on that issue.

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Yes, people went to Heaven. They were saved the same way Christians today are saved: by trusting in the promise of God of salvation through a redeemer as God revealed to Adam and Eve.

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No, you are wrong.

The Gates of Heaven were closed until Jesus Christ died on the Cross. Before that, souls went to Sheol or a place described as "Abraham's Bosom".

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You MUST continue to lie because you follow The Father of Lies and that is Satan.

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You sound like Squirrelmaster, calling everything you disagree with a lie. It's a shame that the Catholic church has for so long abandoned the truth that Catholics don't even understand the difference between the truth and a lie.

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Pope never said any such thing.

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That's the logical conclusion of his comments combined with the Catholic Catechism. His comments say that there are many ways to God (this is false on its face) and that even Atheists can go to Heaven if they follow their conscience. The Catholic Catechism also teaches that its possible for those who seek God sincerely in ignorance (such as Muslims and other non-Christians) can obtain salvation.

Of Protestant beliefs, the Council of Trent put forward dozens of anathemas that have not been overturned in spite of the more liberal and inclusive language of Vatican II and Popes since.

Assuming the Pope agrees and supports the teachings that came before him in these areas, then yes, the logical conclusion is that Muslims have a more realistic path to salvation than Protestants who willfully reject the Roman Catholic church and hold to such doctrines like justification by faith alone in Christ alone, and it's because a Muslim can be saved in his sincere ignorance while Protestants reject the truth as Rome teaches.

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Your whole Faith is based on the distortion and twisting of Truth. Stop lying you Liar.

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False. The Reformed Faith is based on the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments.

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I am vitriolic ONLY in response to vitriol and only in the context of the Theological War that is waged against Catholics almost every day here on Political Talk of Tigerdroppings.

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If you're going to defend the truth as you believe it to be so fervently, why do you despise Protestants for doing the same? You do so in response to Protestant comments, but Protestants like myself do the same thing in response to the stories, themselves, like this one about the Pope. At the end of the day, it's a dialogue about truth. You seem to be upset that Catholicism is in the crosshairs but that's what happens when the supposed head of your church is doubted to even be a saved Christian by many of your own. Perhaps you should take the log out of your own eye in this regard.

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It's not personal against you that you are Anti Christ.

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I beg to differ. My view of salvation is entirely Christocentric. I believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved, through a faith gifted by the Spirit of Christ, contrary to what the RCC teaches. I believe the Scriptures teach a monergism that gives God all the glory in salvation and you call me an Anti Christ because I look to the Scriptures--the only source of truth that is "God-breathed"--alone as my only infallible authority because it alone is the very word of God. You mock sola scriptura but at its core, it's a belief that God alone--not man--is to be our highest authority. You can disagree with it but you can't possibly say that it isn't more glorifying to God than putting my trust in fallible men.

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You are free to ignore the Teaching of Christ. That makes you Anti Christ. Christ's Teaching on the Eucharist, you choose to ignore. Can an Anti Christ like you still get to Heaven? I don't think so, but, that's not up to me to judge, now is it? That is God's Decision.

But, anybody who ignores Christ's clear Teaching on the Eucharist is subject to being labeled Anti Christ, at least on that issue.

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I'm not ignoring Christ's teaching on the Eucharist. I'm ignoring Rome's teaching on it. It's sad that you conflate these two things, as if the teachings of fallible men are on the same level in terms of authority as the clear teachings of Jesus Christ, Himself. That's precisely why sola scriptura is so important to the Christian faith. When you reject that God's Word alone is our sole infallible rule for faith and life, (and again, this is speaking to authority) you open yourself up to receive other rules and authorities.

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No, you are wrong.

The Gates of Heaven were closed until Jesus Christ died on the Cross. Before that, souls went to Sheol or a place described as "Abraham's Bosom".

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You should stick to trying to defend Catholic teaching rather than biblical teaching.

Jesus spoke of Heaven as a present reality during His earthly ministry, were the Father was and where all who belong to Him are or will be when they die. He didn't differentiate between Heaven and Paradise or Sheol but spoke in terms of a spiritual place of reward (Heaven/Paradise) and judgement (Hell) as the two distinct places of the spiritual realm, with God being in Heaven (again, presently, during His ministry).

While the Old Testament doesn't present a fully developed view of Heaven and Hell that Jesus gives us in the New Testament (the Bible is progressive revelation, with more information provided over time as God continues to provide it), it is there all the same.

Elijah is said to have been taken up into Heaven directly. Enoch was taken by God, too, presumably into Heaven as Elijah. Psalm 73:23-25 also indicates that the Psalmist expected to be with God in glory (in Heaven) after death.

Sheol is the generic term for the spiritual place of the dead, but it's clear from Jesus' teachings as well as through the rest of the New Testament that "Sheol" is generic and Heaven and Hell are specific places.

Regardless of your Catholic view of this matter, I believe the point of the question was to call attention to salvation (not the specific place of Heaven) prior to Christ, if people are saved through Christ alone. This is a common question asked by people who call into question the belief that Jesus is the only way to salvation, pointing out that many people lived and died prior to Jesus' death on the cross. So again, it wasn't about Heaven per se, but about how people were saved. And as I said, the Bible teaches a singular salvation through the covenant of grace in Christ as the promised seed of the woman in Genesis 3.

From the earliest days of the Church, the faithful Christians believed in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

Jesus Himself warned us that if we do not eat his Flesh, we "have no life" in us.

From the earliest days of the Church, the faithful believed the Word of God when James warned us that faith without an active Christian life of acting out our Faith in good deeds is the wrong path.

You are on the Path to God, but, you took a detour. The Roman Catholic Church stands ready to take you in and put you back on the right Path to God.

All religions offer a Path to God. Some of them are the wrong path. Other religions are just a sort of detour from the Right Path.

I hope you figure it out in time. Faith in John Calvin's personal view of religion is the wrong path.