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re: Poll: Protestants decline, more have no religion in a sharply shifting religious landscape
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:00 pm to TheHarahanian
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:00 pm to TheHarahanian
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There are a few cases where this is true, like the awful health & wealth churches, acceptance of homosexuality, etc.
In some cases this is true. However, the churches doing the real work of god are the nondenominational churches. Not the normal Protestant denominations.
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Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:01 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Except for the original books they refuse to acknowledge
what books? quote:such as?
the original, millennia old doctrines they don't care for
quote:you sure do comment on this a lot for someone who knows nothing about it
the theology is bereft of depth
quote:i do not advocate the yec position but, i'm also positive you absolutely cannot disprove it.
nonsensical young earth doctrine
quote:plenty of evangelicals acknowledge evolution. universal common descent, otoh, is nonsense.
a denial of evolution
quote:prove it
the demonstrably unbiblical "once saved always saved" doctrine
honestly, you should refrain from commenting on religion. it's like you learned about it from a comic book
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:04 pm to TheHarahanian
quote:it's like people don't know there are multiple kinds of "worship."
Prior to rock and roll church, the purpose in attending was worshipping God.
quote:people are clapping because they are worshipping. they are greatful. look, i prefer traditional, aesthetic worship. however, i also acknowledge that people get into a state of worship by responding to different stimuli. you can worship God while washing the dishes.
I remember being told that applause during church was inappropriate because we weren’t the audience.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:06 pm to AUbused
quote:yeah because the alternative is so awesome
I love the smell of dying religion..........smells like....victory.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:11 pm to Foch
quote:
Presbyterians and Methodists are likely going to church to practice the tenets of their denomination
if this is true, it's a small, tiny minority. those denominations are struggling to say the least. in the meantime, sbc and non denom evangelicals are planting churches, baptizing, sending missionaries all over the country and the world, etc. quote:the prosperity people are a fraction of the equation and it's easy to see they aren't even evangelicals. go to lakewood's website and find ministry opportunities. i didn't see anything and that tells you all you need to know. they aren't interested in serving.
People are going to Osteen’s place and Dino’s new place to hear them.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:14 pm to Jake_LaMotta
quote:c.s. lewis asked how you can tell a crooked line if you don't know what a straight line is. iow, you wouldn't know right from wrong without a transcendent moral anchor. you just end up with moral relativism.
Never have understood people who are so mentally weak they need a religion to help them know or tell them right from wrong.
moral relativism answered
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:15 pm to Roger Klarvin
Christianity isn’t philosophical or complicated. Unbelievers make it that way to make it hard to receive salvation.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:16 pm to Argonaut
quote:no, i'm saying his statement was stupid and any halfway clued up person should be able to explain why
Are you saying that intelligent, reasonable, and unbiased individuals flock to religion to fill in the gaps of human knowledge?
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:34 pm to Bench McElroy
Based on info, looks like 72% still Christian...so given the level of attack from all quarters, the good people have not yet relinquished their faith to the point the "other side" would like you to believe.
The attack never ceases.
The attack never ceases.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:38 pm to Bench McElroy
No religious affiliation doesn’t mean no religion.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 4:39 pm to VOR
What is there to mistake ? They have bastardized the teachings. And I say that as a bad Christian who hasn't been to church in damn near four months outside of one service with family. I don't go to listen to a jam band and everyone clapping around. And I'm definitely not going to a church where they marry a bunch of queers and bend over backwards to appease to the most godless among us, the liberals.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 6:01 pm to bfniii
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any halfway clued up person should be able to explain why
Don't let me stop you from doing that.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 6:02 pm to Bench McElroy
Yep, "many are called, few are chosen."
Posted on 5/11/18 at 6:07 pm to Bench McElroy
I'm not sure why anyone would ever be shocked by this. The Bible predicted people would gradually move away from the truth until the Lord returns.
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 5/11/18 at 6:08 pm to Bench McElroy
People that don’t believe in God:
When you die......
You better hope you’re right!
When you die......
You better hope you’re right!
Posted on 5/11/18 at 6:11 pm to imjustafatkid
Due to the persecution he predicted.
My Faith has only become stronger over the past few years.
My Faith has only become stronger over the past few years.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 6:55 pm to teke184
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I’m sure at least some of this is tied to the subversion of a number of Protestant denominations.
Anyone want to guess the number of people claiming Methodist, Unitarian, or Episcopalian lately?
By subversion, I trust you refer to the swamping of denominational boats with heterodox, trendy, and even heretical theology, and liturgy. You are absolutely right.
I don't think the Unitarians have been an orthodox Christian body for quite a while. And much the same can be said of the Episcopal Church in the United States given the last several decades. The Methodists, the Lutherans, the Presbyterians, and the Episcopalians have all suffered with various virulent strains of this illness leaving their members who wish to remain faithful to the Faith with the choice to remain and fight the good fight in a lost cause or to jump ship and hope to find an orthodox body of like minded and faithful individuals. Not everyone is as fortunate, especially among Episcopalians/Anglicans.
It's not easy. We have experienced this in the Episcopal denomination. Staying, staying, staying praying and hoping things would change only to watch trendy innovations and theological poison become doctrine and practice.
We were fortunate to find a small (Anglican) Episcopal body in Baton Rouge near campus which has quietly remained theologically and liturgically sound throughout all the sound and fury.
On a point of order, I believe the orthodox Anglicans, the Russian/Greek/Eastern Orthodox, and the Roman Catholics can legitimately lay claim to being catholic and would not be properly called Protestant.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 7:05 pm to Argonaut
quote:do you think there is absolutely NO objective truth in religion? that's what he said. that religion is subjective. implying that "science" is objective and religion is ancient myth. the customary, pulp fiction characterization that only halfwits actually use.
Don't let me stop you from doing that
also, the idea that "we know better now" is a fallacy called the tyranny of the present.
and of course he employed the god of the gaps argument so, he hit a trifecta of stupidity in one statement.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 7:06 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
quote:is this yet again the misunderstanding that there can't be more than one type of worship style? because i've responded to that about 5 times already.
hoping things would change only to watch trendy innovations and theological poison
Posted on 5/11/18 at 7:30 pm to joeyb147
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liberalism is their religion and mental disorder
FIFY.
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