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re: Pizzagate makes it to mainstream media
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:16 am to AnonymousTiger
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:16 am to AnonymousTiger
Four pages of tin foil
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:16 am to Salmon
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this board can no longer mock Sandy Hook truthers or 9/11 insiders ever again
What exactly are you drawing a parallel with?
Conspiracy kooks claim Sandy Hook was staged as a false flag operation and relied on large numbers of paid actors that were in on it, with some victims not actually existing, and similar nonsense.
9/11 Truthers also claim a false flag operation that required so many government workers to be in on it and remarkably no insiders are discussing it. They claim WTC collapsed not due to structural damage, but through common demolition techniques that would normally take weeks, in full view of the most watched disaster aftermath in history. It is a theory that relies heavily on flimsy evidence and wildly speculative comments made by uneducated and distressed witnesses. There is very little truth in any of the most significant Truther arguments.
With Pizzagate, there are indeed many wildly speculative beliefs. Among them is the claim that there is evidence of a child trafficking ring. There is none.
Some of the most compelling things about pizzagate are not the multiple variations of speculative narrative, but the things that appear to be true:
Podesta's emails were hacked and published.
His emails demonstrate that he is a weird fella.
It proves he and his brother have some weird fetishes and friends, particularly spirit cooking and pedophilic home decor.
There seems to be a fondness for communicating with seemingly cryptic use of pizza nomenclature as word substitutes for something else, in a context that could and did easily pass for pedophilic banter.
Among their mutual friends is the owner of a pizza shop with a fondness for posting instagram pics that suggest an uncomfortable fondness for children.
The pizza shop is located in the same strip center that, until outed by Reddit a month ago, has another pizza shop featured a logo bearing an image used by pedophiles to signal attraction to young boys.
I don't remember seeing any link between pizzagate discoveries to convicted billionaire and pedophile friend of Clintons, Jeffrey Epstein. But both of those Clinton connections to pedophilic stuff was and continues to be rightfully disturbing to a lot of people.
Is it not alarming that James Alefantis and John Podesta's brother are creepily and unashamedly into pedophilic references? They do this in full view of others. It should cause normal, rational thinking people to wonder what people closer to them observe and enable, protect, and turn a blind eye toward.
Aren't you remotely curious why Alefantis tweets pedophilic references? Shouldn't that be alarming in a civil society?
Aren't you also alarmed that Podesta's brother has pedophilic art in his house, where DC's movers and shakers have visited?
What about James Epstein, an actual convicted sex offender? Aren't you curious as to how so many politicans and celebrities traveled to his island on his private jet known as the Lolita Express, knowing full well of his very open sexual interest in very young "barely legal" girls?
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:20 am to Willie Stroker
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What exactly are you drawing a parallel with?
basically, with all conspiracy theories, people go in believing something already, and then look for things to prove those beliefs
is it possible that individuals are pedophiles? absolutely
do I think there is some vast ring of child traffickers and pedophiles that permeate throughout our world governments? no, because there is no real evidence
find me more proof and I'll be on board, not just speculative evidence or wild leaps and/or conclusions
if it is the widespread, there should be thousands of victims, and with that many victims, it would have got out by now
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 9:22 am
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:29 am to Salmon
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Salmon
I could say you decided ahead of time this is just ludicrous when in fact its got more smoke than you will admit.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:31 am to Salmon
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do I think there is some vast ring of child traffickers and pedophiles that permeate throughout our world governments? no, because there is no real evidence
Right. I haven't read anyone make such a claim on TD. Most of the discussion has been about the things I cited in my brief summary. I have read a few outlandish beliefs without evidence to support it, but there is still much room for sane conversation without lumping such discussions into the same category as kooks into Sandy Hook conspiracies and 9/11 Truthers.
A little more precision in your broad brush critiques would help with keeping sane discourse alive.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:31 am to Nado Jenkins83
no
I decided the vast conspiracy was ludicrous when I saw all the "evidence"
the "smoke" leads to a few individuals possibly being pedophiles (although, again, no victims), not a vast conspiracy
I decided the vast conspiracy was ludicrous when I saw all the "evidence"
the "smoke" leads to a few individuals possibly being pedophiles (although, again, no victims), not a vast conspiracy
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:36 am to Salmon
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no victims
because they are sacrificed at little saint james island
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:37 am to Nado Jenkins83
ok
no parents of these kids? all stolen from orphanages? no workers speak out about kids disappearing?
you all have lots of gaps to fill for me to take this seriously
no parents of these kids? all stolen from orphanages? no workers speak out about kids disappearing?
you all have lots of gaps to fill for me to take this seriously
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:42 am to Salmon
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ok
no parents of these kids? all stolen from orphanages? no workers speak out about kids disappearing?
you all have lots of gaps to fill for me to take this seriously
I don't have time to investigate due to work and all. but I can't see how someone can dismiss the full load of strangeness
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:44 am to Nado Jenkins83
I haven't dismissed all of it.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:53 am to Salmon
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I haven't dismissed all of it.
look im not saying that hillary was drinking childrens blood or obama was backdooring a little boy.
but I think the podesta bros stole that british girl from spain while her family was on vacation.
the police sketches are them
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:58 am to Salmon
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no parents of these kids? all stolen from orphanages? no workers speak out about kids disappearing?
Not to get too far off topic but there was no evidence of kids being in the school building since the building was shutdown for the school year due to asbestos abatement. Not even pictures of bodies under sheets. Nothing. Only body was of the shooter.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:19 am to Nado Jenkins83
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but I think the podesta bros stole that british girl from spain while her family was on vacation.
the police sketches are them
Dude, you're a kook. You are the reason people like Salmon paint the entire conversation as outlandish.
Keep it sane.
There were not 2 suspects in the kidnaping of that little girl. There was one that was the basis for 2 different sketches, sketches made based on the recollection of one witness who described seeing a male carrying a child. Considering it is very common for parents to carry their own children, the "witness" likely did not even witness Madeline McCann being carried anywhere, and likely witnessed a parent carrying their own child.
If you are going to leap from that to the Podesta brothers taking that little girl, then that's enough internet for you for a while. Come back when reasonable discourse comes more naturally to you.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 10:30 am
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:23 am to notsince98
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notsince98
And you're officially a kook too. You're relying on bullshite sourced from bullshite sources.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:25 am to AnonymousTiger
This whole story makes me think of
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:34 am to Willie Stroker
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Willie Stroker
link to non fake news article discussing all this
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:36 am to Willie Stroker
Podesta's fricked up naked kiddy artwork was enough to convince me.
It's not like one piece. He's got that shite up on his walls everywhere.
Who in the hell puts paintings of naked children all over their walls????
And the code is bona fide. It's absolutely a code. What else would a code be used for among these people that also include numbers like 11, 9, and 7 in the same sentence with coded words?
Drugs don't make sense. Nothing else makes any sense. Can anyone think of anything a sentence discussing a "pizza-related handkerchief and 11, 9, and 7" could possibly be talking about??
Nothing outside of children's ages sounds logical to me.
There's some strange frickery going on with these people. I have no doubts. That artwork is hella messed up and the code just reeks of sick pedo jargon.
It's not like one piece. He's got that shite up on his walls everywhere.
Who in the hell puts paintings of naked children all over their walls????
And the code is bona fide. It's absolutely a code. What else would a code be used for among these people that also include numbers like 11, 9, and 7 in the same sentence with coded words?
Drugs don't make sense. Nothing else makes any sense. Can anyone think of anything a sentence discussing a "pizza-related handkerchief and 11, 9, and 7" could possibly be talking about??
Nothing outside of children's ages sounds logical to me.
There's some strange frickery going on with these people. I have no doubts. That artwork is hella messed up and the code just reeks of sick pedo jargon.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:43 am to BeefDawg
willie refuses to believe in evil.
if you look at his post history. its mostly pedo stuff
if you look at his post history. its mostly pedo stuff
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:04 pm to Willie Stroker
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If you are going to leap from that to the Podesta brothers taking that little girl, then that's enough internet for you for a while.
And Podesta's wikileaks emails by chance start the day after McCann went missing?! Yea, that is coincident
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