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re: Pfizer data release. 1223 reported fatalities during 3-month period, out of 42K reports
Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:14 am to the808bass
Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:14 am to the808bass
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Roger is a soulless ghoul more concerned with what club he belongs to than the niceties of the safety of a vaccine that he’s not responsible for.
Did this make sense in your head?
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Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:19 am to Roger Klarvin
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Did this make sense in your head?
Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:24 am to Open Your Eyes
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Open Your Eyes
Missed the massive multinational data dump last week I see
Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:26 am to Roger Klarvin
Not only did it make sense, it’s 100% true.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:28 am to Roger Klarvin
What’s the threshold for unexplained deaths that would incur a warning on the vaccine?
If you said “a number higher than you can count,” you’d be correct.
We’re suspending all of our judgment to protect (in the end) profits of the vaccine manufacturers.
It has nothing to do with public health.
If you said “a number higher than you can count,” you’d be correct.
We’re suspending all of our judgment to protect (in the end) profits of the vaccine manufacturers.
It has nothing to do with public health.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:30 am to the808bass
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it’s 100% true
I wish I understood what you were trying to say so I could comment one way or another. I’ll just have to take your word for it
Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:31 am to Roger Klarvin
Focus on the “soulless ghoul” part.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:38 am to the808bass
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What’s the threshold for unexplained deaths that would incur a warning on the vaccine?
You’d have to actually show that the deaths were unexplained in the first place before we can even attempt to nail down a number. The document in question openly states that none of the 1223 deaths were vetted. Not one. That’s 1223 people who got a vaccine and died of something within 3 months somewhere in the world. That’s literally all you know.
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If you said “a number higher than you can count,” you’d be correct.
If any randomized controlled trial of that many patients anywhere in the world showed even 100 unexplained deaths, the vaccine would be pulled from the market. The historical precedent for this is extensive and overwhelming.
Thankfully the five largest controlled trials on the vaccine to date from three different countries showed a grand total of ONE death definitively linked to the vaccine. The largest American study of nearly 45k patients showed no deaths attributable to the vaccine.
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We’re suspending all of our judgment to protect (in the end) profits of the vaccine manufacturers.
There’s nothing I could ever say or show you, in reality or in theory, that could dissuade your from this belief. It amounts to a religious belief, and so I won’t try.
And upvoting all your own post is weak sauce my man
Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:42 am to the808bass
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Focus on the “soulless ghoul” part.
We’re all soulless, so no objection there
Ghoulish seems a touch harsh, but certainly not the worst thing I’ve been called on this board
Posted on 3/2/22 at 12:50 am to Roger Klarvin
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There’s nothing I could ever say or show you, in reality or in theory, that could dissuade your from this belief. It amounts to a religious belief, and so I won’t try.
Last time I pointed out to you that we were protecting Big Pharma in the face of data, you said “that’s the way it’s always been.” Don’t go changing, trying to please me.
And you’re completely ignoring VAERS (which was implemented because we gave vaccine manufacturers protection) and Covid vaccines. But that’s not a surprise. Why should you pay attention to something the CDC is ignoring?
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:00 am to the808bass
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Last time I pointed out to you that we were protecting Big Pharma in the face of data, you said “that’s the way it’s always been.”
Sure, but you’re claiming extra special corruption when it comes to the covid vaccine. The precedent for what gets a drug or vaccine pulled is there, and you’re saying that in this case they are going above and beyond normal corruption to continue making money off the vaccine. Drug companies will always have baseline corruption just like any profit driven entity on such a massive scale, but the limits on that corruption are pretty clear at this point.
I’m simply saying that you’ve made it clear that’s what you believe and you aren’t budging.
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And you’re completely ignoring VAERS
I’m not ignoring it at all, I’m acknowledging it and then pointing out why that data is entirely unreliable and inadequate for what it’s being used for by some with an agenda against the vaccine.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 1:02 am
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:02 am to the808bass
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Tiguar is, IMO, a good person who believed that the system couldn’t be absolutely corrupted in the way that it was corrupted.
Spot on. He reminded my of my brother - a brilliant medical physicist that for the first 6-8 year of the Covid fiasco was an ardent, true blue believer that medicine, while greedy, was hardwired to real science. When I explained to him the death certificate matching program, which he didn’t know existed and then didn’t understand the process,and then gave him the links to the Stanford Med and JH med reports on 50% of “Covid hospitalizations” being asymptomatic or mild symptoms for Covid, he quite literally disappeared from a several years long family text chat. Just like a Tig disappeared from this board.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:06 am to Roger Klarvin
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I’m acknowledging it and then pointing out why that data is entirely unreliable and inadequate for what it’s being used for by some with an agenda against the vaccine.
And I’m pointing out that the CDC and FDA are ignoring it altogether. Hell, they care so little about it, they’re as much as 6 months behind in processing the reports.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:08 am to Roger Klarvin
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I’m simply saying that you’ve made it clear that’s what you believe and you aren’t budging.
I’m not budging because it’s supported by actual events. We know of multiple people who died from the vaccine. Their doctor said “they died from the vaccine.” And not a budge from the FDA. Not a blip on their radar.
Perhaps they’ll be honest about it months or years from now. But I doubt it. And you won’t either.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 1:09 am
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:09 am to Stingray
quote:this is my thinking as well. 3% out of those already having a reaction doesn't really tell us much.
But I want to 1223 dead out of total vaccinated during that time. Then we know the percentage of dead per vaccination.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:11 am to the808bass
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And I’m pointing out that the CDC and FDA are ignoring it altogether
Why wouldn’t they? Not to defend them too much especially the FDA which was fricked long before covid, but what incentive do they have to seriously engage with and try to refute that data?
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:14 am to Roger Klarvin
Weird. I didn’t think the goal of VAERS was refutation. But that makes more sense that you’re approaching it that way.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:17 am to the808bass
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We know of multiple people who died from the vaccine. Their doctor said “they died from the vaccine.” .
I see patients every week that another doctor thought had a UTI and they, well, didn’t. Lots of doctors think ceftriaxone treats enterococcus and it doesn’t.
Lots of doctors believe lots of things about their patients that are not true. If a doctor wants to present their evidence that their patient does from a vaccine I’ll happily hear them out. But the fact is this amounts to anecdotes of doctors seeing a vaccinated patient die some period of time afterward and believing it to be caused by a vaccine. That’s does not amount to you or me knowing anything about those patients.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:18 am to Roger Klarvin
Now we’re discounting doctor’s clinical assessments because of your religion. You’re a fricking idiot.
Posted on 3/2/22 at 1:19 am to the808bass
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I didn’t think the goal of VAERS was refutation.
When the actual controlled data refutes the claims someone might make based on the VAERS data, your options are to endorse the inferior information, attempt to refute it or ignore it. Given those options, and the fact that those they’d be appealing to don’t believe anything they say anyway, I ask again why wouldn’t they largely ignore it? anything else is a losing proposition.
This post was edited on 3/2/22 at 1:21 am
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