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re: People Happy With Kirk Assassination Want Due Process for Fentanyl Smugglers

Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41712 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:00 pm to
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People Happy With Kirk Assassination


Bama Mountain?
VOR?
Low-t?
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
1719 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 2:45 pm to
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I'm a conservative who believes in conserving the constitution and having a government who follows the law, no matter who is in office.


well you can rest easy jethro, because under international maritime law, people operating unflagged vessels in international waters have no rights, their not even entitled to the rights they may have in their country of origin.

our constitution begins with "we the people of the united states of america" not "we the people of the world!"

you're either willfully ignorant or genuinely stupid.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
855 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 3:31 pm to
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By UN treaty renewed as recently as 2023 any legitimately flagged navy may seize or destroy these boats under the assumption that operating an unflagged ship in international waters is doing so under nefarious circumstances.
Please provide the name of this purported treaty. Cards on the table, I think you are … misinformed.
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Extrajudicial killings are not a good thing.
what does that even mean? what judicial body should we ask permission from?
If our government were following the law, it would be the court that tried and convicted these suspects of a capital crime.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55921 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 3:33 pm to
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If our government were following the law, it would be the court that tried and convicted these suspects of a capital crime.


Which law? Be specific.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
855 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 3:36 pm to
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You clearly have never lost anyone to drugs...or the scourge of drug related crimes. Or seen a child that has to grow up with one parent or no parents due to drugs.
What a load of emotional drivel. Is the sort of thing that one expects to see from a Democrat.

If our government is going to go around killing criminal suspects without so much as an arrest or trial, it is no better than the criminals themselves.

And for the dimwits among us, that is not “defending the criminals.“ Is it is an expectation that I hold of my elected representatives.

No matter HOW heinous the alleged crime, a criminal suspect is entitled to due process.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 3:53 pm
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
855 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 3:37 pm to
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The Department of War says we are at War.
Yeah, that is not how a declaration of war works.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
855 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 3:40 pm to
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Your party and philosophy is founded in Trotskyism. All these neocons you support are from that party. They switched parties in the late 60s and change their brand to neoconservatives. They are anti-Stalin Marxists.
Oh FFS

This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
16935 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
855 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 3:48 pm to
dp
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
16935 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 3:49 pm to
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.......we continued blasting shite out of the water that kills innocent lives, that is going to cause a shite storm.


Have we just found another pro-lifer onboard?
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
855 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 3:49 pm to
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If our government were following the law, it would be the court that tried and convicted these suspects of a capital crime.
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Which law? Be specific.

For starters:
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No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury,... nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law
It would seem that many of our posters are unfamilar with the source material.

Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
34585 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 3:58 pm to
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Extrajudicial killings are not a good thing.

Stop trying to cover it up with shitty people on the left.


If one of those subhuman pieces of shite kills one of your family members via fentanyl will you still let them wallow out you butthole after the funeral?
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
855 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:00 pm to
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If one of those subhuman pieces of shite kills one of your family members via fentanyl will you still let them wallow out you butthole after the funeral?
More emotional drivel.

"My idiot nephew killed himself with an overdose, so I want to throw the Constitution in the garbage bin and have the US Navy go kill anyone it thinks might be moving illegal drugs. Only pussies and communists worry about arrests or convictions based upon findings of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt."

Dude, I am sorry that your sister raised a drug addict, but the Constitution is more important to me than your junkie nephew.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 4:14 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78009 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:01 pm to
I am vehemently against the Kirk assassination and I think it is kinda fricked up we’re just blowing boats out the water.

I am also not losing too much sleep over it.

In an intellectual level the implications are insane, on a practical level they’re drug dealers so I dont really care.

I’m sure we make sure they’re drug dealers first right?
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 4:03 pm
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
855 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:04 pm to
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In an intellectual level the implications are insane, on a practical level they’re drug dealers so I dont really care.
That is how despotism gets a foothold.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78009 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:06 pm to
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That is how despotism gets a foothold.


I’d be way more concerned if they were americans to be fair

we should blow up drug dealers on US soil.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
855 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:16 pm to
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under international maritime law, people operating unflagged vessels in international waters have no rights, their not even entitled to the rights they may have in their country of origin.
Still waiting for that link to this nebulous "UN Treaty" that supersedes the US Constitution.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55921 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:18 pm to
You aren’t aware of the treat that requires a flag be flown? I don’t think it authorizes lethal force…but that treaty absolutely exists.

And what, specifically, does the IS Constitution say about engaging no -citizens in international waters.


What law do you allege is being violated?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
55921 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:20 pm to
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It would seem that many of our posters are unfamilar with the source material.


Non-citizens in international waters? another wannabe Hank opining on the law??
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
855 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:32 pm to
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You aren’t aware of the treat that requires a flag be flown? I don’t think it authorizes lethal force
It doesn't, and that earlier poster is insisting otherwise.
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What ... does the IS (US?) Constitution say about engaging no -citizens in international waters.
It says that the US government cannot make a person answer for a crime (such as by an extrajudicial execution), without obtainbing an indictment, holding a trial and getting a conviction, It also says that the US government will deprive "no person" of life without due process.

That applies on either the land or the sea.

The Fifth Amendment is NOT limited to interactions between the US government and only its citizens. It clearly applies to interactions between the US government and ANY "person." And it certainly does not say "except on the High Seas.'

But what do we care? They are criminals anyway, right?
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 4:34 pm
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