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re: Pennsylvania’s mail-in voting law unconstitutional, appeals court finds

Posted on 1/28/22 at 9:58 am to
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 9:58 am to
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They knew this before they changed it at the last minute. They just didn’t care



Exactly! They were all for it to get rid of Orangeman.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:01 am to
Being told something was legal and actually being legal are 2 different things. Try again
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:10 am to
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Being told something was legal and actually being legal are 2 different things.

I know you really want to believe that you can throw away hundreds of thousands of votes cast in good faith, but you can't.
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Try again



No, I don't have to try anything again. It's the Republicans that will have to try again in 2024.

Joe Biden is the President of the United States of America. There's really nothing you can do about it at this point.

Now, if he's found to be incompetent, or is removed from office through impeachment, then Kamala will be installed - unless she too is implicated in the impeachment, in which case it will be Pelosi. But there's nothing that can be done to change the results of the 2020 election - as much as you really, really want it to be so.
Posted by Coleridge
Houston
Member since Dec 2020
315 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:11 am to
So do we think this will be appealed to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court?

The breakdown there is 5-2 Democrats (kind of funny they only have 7 sitting Justices who serve 10 year teams each, although they must step down at age 75).

Wiki - Supreme Court of Pennsylvania

I wonder what sort of hoops they'll jump through to justify it there.

I doubt that will be the end of it either.

This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 10:16 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30587 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:13 am to
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You can't go back and tell them their votes didn't count because they voted the way they were told was legal.



bullshite! It was unconstitutional. They disenfranchised those voters.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89511 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:17 am to
Trump won, bigly.
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
1901 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:20 am to
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if he's found to be incompetent,


At this point I think we can do away with the "if".
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:22 am to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:25 am to
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You can't go back and tell them their votes didn't count because they voted the way they were told was legal.

bullshite! It was unconstitutional

The way they voted wasn't unconstitutional, the way the law was changed to allow them to vote was unconstitutional.

But let's just say that it is verified that those votes were cast according to an unconstitutional law (which, IMO, they were), do you really think the whole country is going to say, "Oops, okay, well, Trump won. Let's get Biden out of office and have a new inauguration in January of '23"?

Do you seriously see that as having any realistic chance of happening? If so, you'd be more delusional than any liberal I've ever met.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:28 am to
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At this point I think we can do away with the "if".




Agreed. I should have said if the 25th Amendment was invoked.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16726 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:32 am to
I’m a little confused.

I thought the mail in voting “laws” were illegally ordered by the Sec of state and governor. Hence unconstitutional because they were not passed in to law by state legislatures.

This article says it was approved and signed in to law, but still unconstitutional?

Somebody help me out.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 10:33 am
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16210 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:44 am to
So? Nothing will happen. Be it the PA house that passed an unconstitutional law, or the pa secretary of state who used power that the sos position didn't have to unconditionally alter election rules...nothing will happen.

Zero accountability for any of the officials or politicians involved.

You want to see accountability? Think of what would happen if laws and rules were illegally changed to help trump win. FBI would've raided the frick out of each and every one of the officials and politicians who illegally changed election rules. Congress would've had about 5 committees going on right now, about how democracy was stolen by traitors who took it upon themselves to betray their states. We'd see leaks of their txt messages. We'd see their finances.

Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59819 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:48 am to
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WildTchoupitoulas


You're gonna be a fun one to watch.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59819 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:50 am to
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You can't go back and tell them their votes didn't count because they voted the way they were told was legal.

So if an elected official tells illegals they can vote, even though there's no legal basis for it, you have to count them?
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
8085 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:54 am to
Wonder if Biden, Harris, and HRC will condemn this decision as voter suppression?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:56 am to
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You're gonna be a fun one to watch.

When?

I want to make sure to tune in.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30587 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:59 am to
I never said anything about removing Biden and installing Trump. The establishment got what they wanted.

About the votes though…You are assuming all the votes were for Biden and were legit. If they are unconstitutional, they should all be thrown out.

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26202 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:00 am to
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You are assuming all the votes were for Biden and were legit. If they are unconstitutional, they should all be thrown out.


That sounds well and good in theory. However, in reality the election is over. There is no mechanism to throw out results at this point, and doing so would have no effect.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14443 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:03 am to
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However, in reality the election is over.


I didn't read the whole thread. Are there people arguing differently?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59819 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:04 am to
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However, in reality the election is over.

The challenge was filed two months before election day. Those ballots never should've been cast in that manner.
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doing so would have no effect.

This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 11:06 am
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