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re: Paul "Bear" Bryant was a racist
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:06 am to pvilleguru
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:06 am to pvilleguru
We also had 5 black guys walk on around 1967.
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:07 am to pvilleguru
People seriously gotta stop with the Fake News
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:16 am to pvilleguru
Bryant told his coaches to start recruiting black players in 1968.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:33 am to pvilleguru
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We also had 5 black guys walk on around 1967.
Except none of them made the team because Bear Bryant cut them before the season started
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Rhone and four other black walk-ons started spring practice in 1967. None made it to the fall for different reasons
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You may need to brush up on your Google. Wilbur Jackson was on the team as a freshman in 1970 but couldn't play because freshmen weren't allowed to play by the NCAA back then.
So, as had been the case for the entire history of the school, Alabama had an all white football team in 1970. Which is exactly what I said. Was he not the first black player to play for Alabama in 1971? You are so bad at this. Did I also not say the following in my original post? Which directly preceded Jackson being recruited the following year?
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Alabama actually got crushed by Tennessee the previous year (in 1969) 41-14. Two of the Vols’ best players—receiver Lester McLain and linebacker Jackie Walker—were black.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:34 am to ThePTExperience1969
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People seriously gotta stop with the Fake News
I'm listing facts backed by links. This other dude is just spouting out falsehoods to further his own view point with no source or links provided. But I'm fake news? Got it.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:41 am to the_watcher
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Except none of them made the team because Bear Bryant cut them before the season started
No he didn't. The best player had to drop out of school due to family trouble. He probably would have played at some point. Another was ineligible because he was on academic scholarship.
Jackson was on the team, but was not allowed to play by the NCAA. That means the team was not all white. Jackson was not the 1st black player to play, although he did play in 1971. The 1st player to play was a JUCO player that signed in 71.
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Which directly preceded Jackson being recruited the following year?
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Alabama actually got crushed by Tennessee the previous year (in 1969) 41-14. Two of the Vols’ best players—receiver Lester McLain and linebacker Jackie Walker—were black.
What part of "Bryant started recruiting black players in 1968" do you not understand?
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:45 am to pvilleguru
LINK
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Wilbur Jackson watched the myth unfold from his seat in Legion Field in Birmingham on a hot September night in 1970. He was an Alabama freshman, his presence virtually unknown. He was the university's first black football recruit, but freshmen were ineligible to play.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:49 am to the_watcher
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"We tried to recruit a number of black kids that we didn't get," Dye said.
One of them was Bo Matthews, an All-State fullback from Huntsville's Butler High School. Alabama thought it would sign Matthews, and he went to Memphis the week the Crimson Tide played Colorado in the 1969 Liberty Bowl. But after spending time with a number of Colorado's black players, Matthews signed with the Buffaloes. He became an All-American there and the No. 2 pick in the 1974 NFL draft.
From the same link you provided.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 9:53 am to pvilleguru
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"I got a fair shot," Rone said at the conclusion of spring. "I expect to get a chance to play next season."
It would not come to pass. During the summer of 1967, Rone left school due to family problems and was subsequently called into military service. Bryant recalled later that he doubted if Rone would have ever started for the team but "I think he would have played one day."
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Pernell returned to walk-on again in the spring of 1968. He dressed out for that year’s A-Day game and made it into the game for three plays. His career with the team ended when the athletics department learned he was attending school on an academic scholarship which was a violation of SEC rules for a student athlete.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:00 am to the_watcher
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But I'm fake news? Got it.
Bc you conveniently omitted the fact Wilbur Jackson was a freshman who couldn't play varsity in 1970 while supporting a false narrative about Alabama football and integration regarding the USC-Alabama game, you don't make a strong argument with just parcels of facts you use ALL FACTS CMON MAN
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:02 am to pvilleguru
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What part of "Bryant started recruiting black players in 1968" do you not understand?
This watcher dude is a moron who cherrypicks facts to support his weak argument that will obviously be impeached
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:38 am to ThePTExperience1969
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Bc you conveniently omitted the fact Wilbur Jackson was a freshman who couldn't play varsity in 1970 while supporting a false narrative about Alabama football and integration regarding the USC-Alabama game, you don't make a strong argument with just parcels of facts you use ALL FACTS CMON MAN
I said Wilbur Jackson was the first black player to ever play for Alabama in 1971 along with another teammate. That is a fact. I then said Sam Cunningham played against an all white Alabama team in 1970. Another fact. I followed that by immediately stating Alabama had played and lost big to a Tennessee team in 1969 that included 2 black players - giving doubt to the Sam Cunningham narrative since 2 black players had crushed them the year before. This is all in my original post. You can literally go to page 2 and read it.
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This watcher dude is a moron who cherrypicks facts to support his weak argument that will obviously be impeached
Here's a tip. When you resort to insulting the person making the other side of an argument, you've already lost the argument.
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What part of "Bryant started recruiting black players in 1968" do you not understand?
What part of "The first black player to play for Alabama was in 1971" do you not understand? "Oh well we really tried hard to recruit them trust us. It just took 2 entire years for us to do it successfully and we finally succeeded in 1970."
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No he didn't. The best player had to drop out of school due to family trouble. He probably would have played at some point. Another was ineligible because he was on academic scholarship.
So he didn't cut the other 3?
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:43 am to the_watcher
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Here's a tip. When you resort to insulting the person making the other side of an argument, you've already lost the argument.
I wasn't making an argument, I was pointing out flaws in yours bc you omitted the fact Wilbur Jackson was a freshman during that famous 1970 USC-Alabama game the team was already integrated due to that and the other prior black players on the team as indicated. My question is why'd you omit the fact Wilbur Jackson was a scholarship freshman(who was ineligible due to NCAA freshmen rules) when that famous USC-Alabama game that you featured so prominently occurred? Honest question.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:44 am to the_watcher
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So he didn't cut the other 3?
He may have, but I haven't found anything that has said he did or didn't.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:45 am to the_watcher
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What part of "The first black player to play for Alabama was in 1971" do you not understand?
What's that got to do with the part of your post I was replying to?
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:47 am to mwade91383
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They only got black players after USC showed up w a stud black running back (Sam Cunningham) and beat the shite out of those slow white boys.
We already had a black player on the roster at that point, but he was a freshman and couldn't play. NCAA rules at that time banned freshmen from playing. Also, Tennessee beat us the previous year and was already integrated.
That said, the Cunningham story makes for a better narrative.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:48 am to skrayper
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That said, the Cunningham story makes for a better narrative.
The entire point of watcher's post
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:48 am to the_watcher
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This is all in my original post. You can literally go to page 2 and read it.
Your first post on page 2 said that we weren't integrated in 1970. Wilbur Jackson being on the team as a scholarship athlete proves that we were integrated.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:51 am to junkfunky
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Do you wipe your arse with bed sheets? That's toilet paper they put in the trees, dumbass.
Read this: Alabama fan poisoned Auburn tree
and catch up on the conversation.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 10:52 am to pvilleguru
Intellectual dishonesty at its worst per watcher you done been IMPEACHED BROTHA!
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