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re: Our President Tweets that NOW is the time to end the 60 vote rule
Posted on 7/29/17 at 11:49 am to Hawkeye95
Posted on 7/29/17 at 11:49 am to Hawkeye95
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No, the moderates are pretty clear. They don't want 15-25M additional uninsured. And they don't want medicaid rollback.
This is the basis for your entire reply and it's simply not honest.
Just because the CBO states 15-25M lose coverage doesn't make it true.
A large portion of those that would lose coverage never wanted it but are being forced to buy it.
Another large portion would turn right around and buy new coverage directly from the insurance companies if they lost their Exchange provided plan.
The borderline impoverished who receive subsidies would qualify for Medicaid and go there.
The 4-5 million with preexisting conditions are the only ones who would ACTUALLY lose coverage. And Reps have already said they want to implement some kind of plan specifically designed for them. Maybe a straight up max out of pocket limit entitlement even.
As for the Medicaid "rollback", this is being falsely portrayed as a "cut" when the truth is it's just an elimination of the "expansion" that doesn't make sense.
Before the ACA, Medicaid's budget was designed to expand or contract based on CPI/inflation/general healthcare cost factors at a relative percentage. This is smart and logical.
The ACA set a massive budget growth rate that has no consideration for actual market fluctuations. It is designed to just grow and then lower the threshold for qualification, and continue getting as many people as possible in the system and becoming welfare dependent.
A new plan would simply revert Medicaid back to its previous formula and eliminate the obvious attempt to exponentially expand the entitlement.
Again, you are either ignorant about this or just dishonest. Either way, your agenda is the same. Which is impugn and discredit this administration at all costs and by any means.
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Posted on 7/29/17 at 12:17 pm to a want
quote:You mean in the same way the Senate rule for 60 votes did?...
"Let's move the goalposts!"
Posted on 7/29/17 at 12:45 pm to awestruck
Why do adults type in ALL CAPS?
Posted on 7/29/17 at 1:25 pm to Hawkeye95
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he couldn't get to 51 votes on relatively small changes. And the problem was with the moderates, not the conservatives. He would still have trouble getting to 51 with a non-reconcillation bill.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 1:30 pm to Seldom Seen
So 7 months and no major legislation signed by Trump. So goes the great deal maker.
Good thing he has twitter so he can remain somewhat relevant to his base.
Good thing he has twitter so he can remain somewhat relevant to his base.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 1:32 pm to Homesick Tiger
quote:but but but democrats!!!
Your man Harry Reid broke the mold concerning this topic. Did you ever call him dumbass also?
Posted on 7/29/17 at 1:34 pm to TN Bhoy
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He's a dumbass
Here is how stupid and unhinged you morons have became.
Congress members publicly state their opinion about how they think the President should conduct HIS job, and give opinions on what he's doing wrong EVERY fricking day and you morons love it, you quote them as evidence that Trump is an idiot, you cite them as proof that Trump is stupid, etc etc.
But if Trump reverses the situation and suggests how Congress should do THEIR jobs, you morons come unglued.
The world would be a better place without such stupid people
Posted on 7/29/17 at 1:59 pm to TN Bhoy
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He's a dumbass
I love how people keep saying this about a guy who turned a couple hundred million into several billion, opened up a global company with properties all over the world, developed a 14 season long show, beat 16 republicans comfortably for the GOP nomination and then beat the Clinton machine and his own party's establishment for the presidency.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 2:44 pm to mmcgrath
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It almost seems like Trump had no idea how government worked.
No way!!! Who could've seen that coming?
Posted on 7/29/17 at 2:50 pm to Seldom Seen
You cannot complain about rules that have been in place. Just because you want it your way Donald, does not make it so. Pass it the proper way and shut up.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 2:52 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Your man Harry Reid broke the mold concerning this topic. Did you ever call him dumbass also?
You're clueless.
Reid changed the 60 vote rule as it pertained to appointments to the Appeals bench because the repubs/cons had held of 3 of Obama's appointments for over a year.
It had nothing to do with legislation.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 3:02 pm to Knight of Old
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You mean in the same way the Senate rule for 60 votes did?...
the filibuster 60 votes was writen in to ensure bipartisan cooperation on authored legislation.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 3:25 pm to TheHumanTornado
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The dumbass just wants to change the rules that would benefit him winning, not the country as a whole.
It exposes his true motivation is simply a short term personal win and not the long term viability of conservative goals. He is not concerned in the least that this power will be abused by dems in the future.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 3:37 pm to Seldom Seen
I dedicate my life and soul to His Imperial Majesty, the God Emperor Donald Trump and Her Imperial Highness, the Goddess Empress Ivanka. 
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:31 pm to gumbeaux
wth are you talking about?
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:40 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Your man Harry Reid broke the mold concerning this topic. Did you ever call him dumbass also? Yeah, I didn't think so.
Not an analogous situation. That wasn't done for legislative purposes. It was done strictly for nominations.
We can argue over the merits of it, but Trump is calling for a different approach to legislation, not nominations...whole different ball game, no?
This post was edited on 7/29/17 at 10:41 pm
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