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Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:17 am to StraightCashHomey21
We know liberal men are low T neckbearded manlets LINK. I find it hilarious how yall get all riled up.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:23 am to John McClane
Could Trump be a bigger beta bitch? The answer is, of course, no .
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:27 am to bamafan1001
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Our President Tweets that NOW is the time to end the 60 vote rule
How is he a dumbass?
I confess I don't know all the ins and outs of legislation. But this morning's paper quoted Charles Schumer as saying 60 votes was not needed. Only 51 votes was needed which included a tie breaker by Mike Pence.
If this is true, then he is a dumbass and has no business being politics if you don't know what it takes to pass legislation.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:30 am to AUbused
Alpha Obama was man enough to keep his indignations to himself. Not take to Twitter every time his feelings got hurt. President Snowflake. Sad!
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:32 am to imjustafatkid
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Irrelevant. If Dems had control of the Senate and needed to change the rules to pass a pet bill, it would have already happened.
In 2009 the Senate Democrats had an opportunity to abolish the filibuster and didn't.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:37 am to gumbeaux
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I confess I don't know all the ins and outs of legislation. But this morning's paper quoted Charles Schumer as saying 60 votes was not needed. Only 51 votes was needed which included a tie breaker by Mike Pence.
And this is why you and most of the plebs are so ignorant.
You admit you don't know how it works.
1. New Full Legislation only takes 51 votes...... HOWEVER, if the opposition filibusters, then a super-majority of 60 is required to pass the bill.
2. Reconciliation Bills only need 51 votes to pass...... HOWEVER, they are not New Full Bills, they are only budgetary/fiscal alterations of existing legislation.
Every single bill the Republicans have been fighting over recently have been RECONCILIATION BILLS. Half-measured attempts to simply alter fiscal aspects of the existing ACA.
They have new full bills sitting on their desks collecting dust (like Rand Paul's healthcare bill), but they will not waste time debating and formalizing it for presentation because the Democrats have vowed to filibuster it.
Why waste time on something that's certain to be shut down by Dems?
So the ONLY alternative has been Reconciliation attempts. But Republicans can't come to agreement on Obamacare Lite or partial repeals for obvious reasons... they don't fix the problem.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:40 am to BeefDawg
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And this is why you and most of the plebs are so ignorant.
he couldn't get to 51 votes on relatively small changes. And the problem was with the moderates, not the conservatives. He would still have trouble getting to 51 with a non-reconcillation bill.
Trump just doesn't understand the legislative process works, or how he doesn't even have the support of his caucus.
It is pathetic.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:49 am to SiloamHog
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Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:53 am to bamafan1001
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You seem distressed
Could of just said, 'Melt'.
Because that's all those tweet's were. Strange all the wife beater wearing cuck, klux clan wannabe, snowflakes haven't figured out they've been had by just another snake oil melter. T'was just a damn if you do and damned if don't vote, when it came time to selecting him.
The dud's just not smart enough to know (any of) that, and you're obviously confused to not be, 'distressed' too.
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Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:54 am to Seldom Seen
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Posted on 7/29/17 at 11:04 am to SquirrelyBama
Sounds like excuses to me. Melt more snowflake.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 11:09 am to GFaceKillah
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Trump's one qualification was the ability to make tough deals. Clearly, he sucks at that. So what does our president actually do when he's not making deals?
watches Fox and Friends
Posted on 7/29/17 at 11:11 am to SirWinston
Might want to go back to the drawing board on that one, Carlin.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 11:11 am to Hawkeye95
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he couldn't get to 51 votes on relatively small changes. And the problem was with the moderates, not the conservatives. He would still have trouble getting to 51 with a non-reconcillation bill.
This is complete conjecture from your biased opinion.
The Reconciliation attempts and partial repeals were all ineffectual changes that would not fix the healthcare problems, only kick the can down the road a bit.
Of course they couldn't all agree on this. Some of them simply refuse to agree to half-measures that don't solve the problem.
You are delusional if you don't think they would all agree on a full new bill (or bills) that purports to solve the problems with true free market conservative principles.
You are biased though and will make contradictory assumptions just to push your agenda. So GTFO
Posted on 7/29/17 at 11:15 am to BeefDawg
Thanks beefdawg. That helps me understand things a little better. 
Posted on 7/29/17 at 11:17 am to BeefDawg
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This is complete conjecture from your biased opinion.
No, the moderates are pretty clear. They don't want 15-25M additional uninsured. And they don't want medicaid rollback.
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The Reconciliation attempts and partial repeals were all ineffectual changes that would not fix the healthcare problems, only kick the can down the road a bit.
I don't disagree. But if you think he had trouble with these relatively small changes, you think he could force rand's bill through? Not a shot in hell.
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Some of them simply refuse to agree to half-measures that don't solve the problem.
Who? Collins, Murkowski, or mccain? Those that wanted major over-haul, Lee, Paul, Sasse, cruz - all voted yes.
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You are delusional if you don't think they would all agree on a full new bill (or bills) that purports to solve the problems with true free market conservative principles.
You are the delusional one.
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You are biased though and will make contradictory assumptions just to push your agenda.
what exactly is my agenda? I wouldn't actually have a problem with major healthcare overhaul. The votes aren't there though, whether that bar is 50 or 60.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 11:44 am to Seldom Seen
The dumbass just wants to change the rules that would benefit him winning, not the country as a whole. I'm sure he wouldn't want to change to the popular vote being the deciding factor of the election
Posted on 7/29/17 at 11:46 am to Hawkeye95
quote:Savage facts
Some of them simply refuse to agree to half-measures that don't solve the problem.
Who? Collins, Murkowski, or mccain? Those that wanted major over-haul, Lee, Paul, Sasse, cruz - all voted yes
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