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re: Oregon sent 60 FireTrucks to Cali, they are being held in Sacramento for emissions testing
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:15 am to Smeg
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:15 am to Smeg
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So they weren't held up for "emissions testing" they were held up for "inspections". Thanks for the clarification.
There is a difference between a gemeral/safety equipment inspection and an emmisions inspection. Emergency Management has lots of checklists. I'm a member of my institute's emergency response and planning team. 18 departments and about 80 people from top to bottom of the organization.
Honestly, the concept of using out of state emergency equipment is probably already part of their contigency plan. We have plans with outiside institutions in place for a number of things. Hurricanes, transportation , shelter, all sorts of things. Business continuity is a separate plan.
I can see this inspection consisting of checking equipment and hoses and pumps on the truck, etc. To make sure the firefighters are safe and have fully functioning equipment . That's not an environmental inspection. That's an inspection to make sure the firefighters are safe.
I'm okay with that. But I imagine the Oregon fighters probably have their own inspection they would do, but the City of LA is the Incident Command and are responsible for for the safety of the responders. There's a lot to Emergency Managment. NIMS covers all this.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 10:27 am
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:18 am to i am dan
So a large fire covering several suburbs, everyone from surrounding suburbs check in and gets a quick inspection! Don't forget to bring your training record with you!
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:24 am to Jbird
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So a large fire covering several suburbs, everyone from surrounding suburbs check in and gets a quick inspection! Don't forget to bring your training record with you!
Yes, it could lead to more injuries or deaths that would use up additional resources. Resources are very importand right now for them.
Firefighters wouldn't let just anyone enter a highrise fire. It is a secure scene. That's step one and a very important step.
This fire is no different yeah?
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 10:26 am
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:26 am to i am dan
quote:What does the inspection of my fire truck have to do with it?
Firefighters don't let just anyone enter a highrise fire. It is a secure scene. That's step one and a very important step. Why would this fire be different?
So I need to bring my training records?
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:29 am to Lsut81
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Why the frick are you even delaying them? If they are City/State emergency vehicles, you should just wave them on.
What madness is this?
Are you some type of unhinged LUNATIC?!?
God forbid that — in the (literal) heat of an ongoing natural disaster — some overbearing Government Directorate be asked to loosen it’s bureaucratic sine quibus non.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:30 am to Jbird
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What does the inspection of my fire truck have to do with it?
So I need to bring my training records?
Did you read or hear anything about personnel training records in any part of this or any other conversation about the Oregon fire trucks?
Maybe you should just read the thread and not say anything. I already answered the question about the vehicle inspection. You're grown, I'll let you handle that on your own.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 10:34 am
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:33 am to i am dan
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I can see this inspection consisting of checking equipment and hoses and pumps on the truck, etc. To make sure the firefighters are safe and have fully functioning equipment . That's not an environmental inspection. That's an inspection to make sure the firefighters are safe.
And fire departments do all those checks during down times, not before the truck and crew are heading out on a call.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 10:35 am
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:33 am to i am dan
Ok one more time I get a request because your FD is overwhelmed. I send my guys, I understand reporting to the on scene or incident command. Nobody is fricking questioning that.
But that isn't the fricking case here is it?
But that isn't the fricking case here is it?
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:35 am to Toomer Deplorable
quote:It's almost like there are minimum standards of performance.
And fire departments do all those checks during down times, not before the truck and crew are heading out on call.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:35 am to Toomer Deplorable
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And fire departments do all those checks down times, not before the truck and crew are heading out on run.
I bet you think when the US sends military equipment and personnel to another area, theg do an initial inspection and then never do any more. Naw, military doesn't do any daily inspections of their equipment or guns in active duty combat situations do they....? Do you think before you speak at all?
You should've been IC for this incident. Screw the years of training of all those responders. You got this all figured out. You should update the Federal policies. You sure know what you're talking about. Didn't know a message board poster with zero experience would turn out to be the expert.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 10:45 am
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:36 am to i am dan
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You should've been IC for this incident. Screw the years of training of all those responders. You got this all figured out.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:40 am to Jbird
I'm not taking up for LA. They have royally screwed up many things out there in the prep and response.
I'm responding from an EM standpoint.
I'm responding from an EM standpoint.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:43 am to i am dan
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You got this all figured out
If that is another way of saying I don’t have my head up my arse, yes, I suppose so.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:44 am to i am dan
quote:I understand that, just seems a waste 385 miles from LA you do a safety inspection?
I'm responding from an EM standpoint.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:46 am to Toomer Deplorable
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If that is another way of saying I don’t have my head up my arse, yes, I suppose so.
Just like I describe leftists. Pretentious and ignorant.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:53 am to Zip it blondie
quote:As has been discussed in this thread, no, they were not held for emissions testing.
Oregon sent 60 FireTrucks to Cali, they are being held in Sacramento for emissions testing
Stop lying.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:54 am to i am dan
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Just like I describe leftists. Pretentious and ignorant.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:58 am to MetArl15
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As has been discussed in this thread, no, they were not held for emissions testing.
Does it really matter if they were held for emissions testing or held for something like checking how much is left of the brake pads and psi of the tires? Either way, they were needlessly held up.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 11:00 am to thebigmuffaletta
quote:Then tell me it's safety and the drive could have caused issues. Um you did the inspection 385 miles and 5 hour 40 minute drive away from LA.
Does it really matter if they were held for emissions testing or held for something like checking how much is left of the brake pads and psi of the tires? Either way, they were needlessly held up.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 11:01 am
Posted on 1/12/25 at 11:03 am to Toomer Deplorable
No, I was having a normal person conversation. You were being a message board person.
And you still are.. keep posting internet memes. That's cool.
And you still are.. keep posting internet memes. That's cool.
This post was edited on 1/12/25 at 11:04 am
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