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re: Only thing we now know beyond a shadow of a doubt after this week:
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:00 am to Tigerdev
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:00 am to Tigerdev
“I think it's a good idea not to surround yourself with criminals if you are going to be POTUS“
Or....maybe don’t attach yourself to a targeted POTUS or you may get steamrolled by the DOJ for doing so.
Or....maybe don’t attach yourself to a targeted POTUS or you may get steamrolled by the DOJ for doing so.
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Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:02 am to Tigerdev
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Donald Trump has had 4 advisors either plead guilty or be found guilty of crimes. Point being I think it's a good idea not to surround yourself with criminals if you are going to be POTUS.
Party of personal responsibility?
How about we take a look at Obama's crew and the crimes they SHOULD be charged with and the parties responsible for making the charges fixed/rigged as well.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:03 am to Tigerdev
We would know because the criminal acts performed by the Obama regime and the Clinton cabal never seem to find their way into getting media scrutiny or the attention of the DOJ.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:05 am to SquatchDawg
So you are playing the victim card because an all Republican government has led to these indictments. #PartyofPersonalResponsibility
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:07 am to Big Jim Slade
So you are saying these men are innocent of these crimes?
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:07 am to Tigerdev
quote:I'd have to know the facts, but I generally do not support guilt by association.
Answer me this: would you be so laissez faire about criminals pleading and being found guilty all around Obama?
Bill Clinton's 3 closest business associates and political ally Arkansas governor were all indicted during whitewater for financial crimes and I didn't really think it had any bearing on Clinton.
Ronald Reagan had 180 admin offficials indicted over his 8 years and I shrugged it off because I didn't see any smoking gun complicity.
It is, however, interesting that you are bringing up Flynn being a criminal. He lied to the fbi, which is indeed a crime, but you actively supported someone in the 2016 election whose two closest advisors also lied to the FBI: Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin.
They BOTH told the FBI they did not know about the clinton server, yet we have emails that show Mills explicity asking Abedin about the server in 2010.
This is from the FBI interview of Mills in 2016
This is from a 2010 email
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:08 am to Crimson1st
So your theory is that the government which currently is dominated by Republicans in every branch is giving Democrats a pass while persecuting Trump?
Do you even stop to evaluate your thinking? Ever?
Do you even stop to evaluate your thinking? Ever?
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:11 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I voted for Clinton over Trump. I never once defended the email server stupidity. At one point do you move past whataboutism and stop acting as apologist for what is at a minimum incompetence for appointing multiple criminals to your most inner circle?
As the right likes to say: Hillary lost. MOVE ON. Join us in holding a sitting POTUS accountable.
As the right likes to say: Hillary lost. MOVE ON. Join us in holding a sitting POTUS accountable.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:16 am to Tigerdev
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I voted for Clinton over Trump. I never once defended the email server stupidity. At one point do you move past whataboutism and stop acting as apologist for what is at a minimum incompetence for appointing multiple criminals to your most inner circle?
This is my big problem with your thinking: it makes a huge leap in assuming trump somehow knew or was supposed to know about Manafort being shady. Manafort has been on the campaign team of every republican president since George HW Bush. The fact of the matter is he had a very good resume and actually did a superb job ensuring enough delegates at convention. Nobody knew or could have known about his concealed corrupt background.
Also, Flynn was hired BEFORE he committed a federal crime (lying to FBI), which he did after 2016 election. So that example doesn't hold imo. That is like me calling into question your competency if your employee committed some felony or crime after you hired him.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:20 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
He was warned about Flynn. And in my world for better are for worse executives are responsible for the people they hire. After years of rhetoric about corruption and criminality in the government I find it amazing that the right doesn't care at all about criminals in the executive branch.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:27 am to Tigerdev
quote:Obama and Trump have both had exactly ONE person in their cabinet been nailed with a federal crime: Michael Flynn for lying to FBI and, for Obama, his WH counsel Greg Craig, whom Mueller is going to nail with FARA violations for work done in Ukraine.
After years of rhetoric about corruption and criminality in the government I find it amazing that the right doesn't care at all about criminals in the executive branch.
I think it is completely unfair to connect Craig to Obama, btw.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:40 am to Tigerdev
Not saying they’re innocent . I agree that he’s surrounded himself with some sketchy characters. Maybe not any more so than the average president. Look up all the Clinton cronies who went to jail, including Chelsea’s rumored father Webster Hubbel. Whitewater, campaign contributions, espy/Tyson foods. It’s like 40 Clinton associates.
The trump crew has been mostly convicted of process crimes and the substantive crimes pre dated and were unrelated to the presidency. They likely never would’ve even been looked at had they not been connected to the president and therefore placed in the DOJ crosshairs. The same probably rings true for the Clinton folks.
Show me the man and I will find you the crime. If the DOJ wants to get anyone, they’ll find something. Especially if they think you’re a bait fish. Whether Dem or Repub.
The trump crew has been mostly convicted of process crimes and the substantive crimes pre dated and were unrelated to the presidency. They likely never would’ve even been looked at had they not been connected to the president and therefore placed in the DOJ crosshairs. The same probably rings true for the Clinton folks.
Show me the man and I will find you the crime. If the DOJ wants to get anyone, they’ll find something. Especially if they think you’re a bait fish. Whether Dem or Repub.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:45 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:I think its a bit convenient to disavow one of the architects of Trump's campaign, his personal attorney for decades, and his NSA who he was warned about. That said, this isn't over and we will have a final situation to review at some point. Perhaps between icing our buttholes over the football season results we will have time to continue this discussion
Obama and Trump have both had exactly ONE person in their cabinet been nailed with a federal crime: Michael Flynn for lying to FBI and, for Obama, his WH counsel Greg Craig, whom Mueller is going to nail with FARA violations for work done in Ukraine.
I think it is completely unfair to connect Craig to Obama, btw.
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:48 am to Tigerdev
quote:Yea, after Michigan wins playoffs with shea patterson leading the way, I will be reinvigorated on here and ready for anything.
Perhaps between icing our buttholes over the football season results we will have time to continue this discussion
We comin. We......comin
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:51 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Don't trigger me bro
We comin. We......comin
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:54 am to Tigerdev
Not to troll or anything or ruin your night, and I think the thread is now deleted...but some LSU dude on the rant made a cryptic OP about LSU players being suspended for opener, including starters. Post had zero evidence or further info. It is deleted now.
There is a thread on secrant though
There is a thread on secrant though
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:56 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
That would definitely be vintage LSU. I was wondering why we didn't have one of our best players dismissed in the offseason.Posted on 8/25/18 at 5:27 am to lsuoilengr
A list??!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. frick you AND your list, internet badass.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted on 8/25/18 at 5:31 am to Crimson1st
Govt is majority Republican and we have no indictment of those people. Damnit, if we have evidence what is the hold up?
Posted on 8/25/18 at 5:34 am to LSUTigersVCURams
The real question is how many Republicans will vote to impeach along with 100% of the Democrats.
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