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re: On 9/17/25, Massie named one perp and said there were several other men in FBI 302s

Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:58 pm to
I doubt the “materials” include something called a “list”, meaning a pedo list.

Is there a complete flight log? Possibly. Will it prove everyone who flew was engaged in pedo sex? No.

What about victim testimony? Probably some of that, but many of the victims might not know the names, if they used real names or any names at all. Some might have been paid off, others snuffed out.

My best guess is that this release won’t produce the evidence to even charge much less convict anyone, except maybe 1 or 2.

That’s just how illegal and dark enterprises work. Nobody keeps a journal.

If they don’t have videos of the encounters, not much will be revealed.

It sucks, but that’s how it’ll go.

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:00 pm to
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I will ask you to reiterate... Staley is the only name in that video? Rest of dudes are descriptive?


I'm tired too and my wife has a migraine (seriously), so I missed it.

It's worth listening to when you get a chance. He refers very specifically to "Italian automobile manufacturer," etc. He's confident there are 302 reports of interviews with these men. I assume that we would see the 302s AND an analysis on why each of those investigations were closed...unless Massie is completely full of shite.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:02 pm to
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I'm tired too and my wife has a migraine (seriously), so I missed it.


Saul Goodman

Get some rest and I hope your wife feels better soon! I'll find ya tomorrow or the next day and we can pick back up on this.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:05 pm to
Lol. Much appreciated. G'night
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:07 pm to
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I don't know who you think I am... but you're wrong.


What am I wrong about?

Go on record and state who or who shouldn’t be considered in this case. Be sure to let us know who is admissible and inadmissible regarding sex trafficking and pedophilia.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:14 pm to
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Go on record and state who or who shouldn’t be considered in this case. Be sure to let us know who is admissible and inadmissible regarding sex trafficking and pedophilia.


Everyone. Why would anyone be off limits?

I don't care if Rob Schneider, Mel Gibson, Larry Kudlow, Paul Simon, Elon Musk, Michael Crichton, Robin Cook, John MacArthur, Dennis the muthafukkin Menace is on the list- all people I like, btw... anyone that did shady shite such as trafficking or pedophilia should be outed.

I have NEVER said otherwise.

Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 2:53 am to
Massie I mean McCarthy

yep. This is exactly why they want to redact. A frickin 302 is a form they fill out when they interview someone, it does not mean they are a suspect. Massie is "implying" anyone in a 302 report is a suspect.

Its akin to some pervert at your kids school doing something and the cops interview you to find out if you know anything........and the next thing you know you have a congressman listing you as a "person" involved in the police investigation.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9007 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:43 am to
Sallys, here is what Massie said. [To the peanut gallery, I realize this is from September. I had missed these verifiable details]

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The lawmaker claimed those files include “one Hollywood producer worth a few 100 million dollars, one royal prince, one high-profile individual in the music industry, one very prominent banker, one high profile government official, one high profile former politician, one owner of a car company in Italy, one rock star, one magician, at least six billionaires, including a billionaire from Canada. We know these people exist in the FBI files, the files that you control.”
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:59 am to
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Massie I mean McCarthy


That's a good comparison at this point. At least Massie, unlike McCarthy, gave some verifiable details as to the potential bad guys he alleges are in the files.

The question is, what is Massie going to do when the 30 days have elapsed and the alleged 302s haven't been produced? Is he going to trot a witness forward to say "in 2003, I gave a statement to the FBI against Italian automobile manufacturer?"

What is stopping him from doing that now? Why haven't the victims filed suit against these "new" perps? They are alleging inaction by the FBI. Have they gone to state authorities?

Were the reporters hand selected for the press conferences so they wouldn't ask these questions?

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9007 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:01 am to
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Massie is "implying" anyone in a 302 report is a suspect.


Fair criticism. Unfortunately, I have a feeling we will never see the 302s (if they exist) to judge for ourselves.
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