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Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:27 pm to
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:27 pm to
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:28 pm to
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Audio of a Sailor aboard USS Michael Murphy (DDG 112), with video from the guided-missile destroyer’s embarked helicopter flying over the Gulf of Oman, as the U.S. Navy diverts a merchant vessel while enforcing the blockade on ships entering or departing Iranian ports. U.S. forces are prepared to sustain the blockade as long as it takes.
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:28 pm to
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:31 pm to
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Iran flatly rejects Trump’s claim of a uranium handover deal.

Sources close to Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf say no transfer of nuclear material to the U.S. was ever negotiated.

Another insider calls the claim “a lie,” adding no real progress has been made and talks will only continue if Iran’s conditions are fully met.

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Competing factions
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:34 pm to
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by Tigerswillprevail
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:34 pm to
Although I think the Iranians are appreciative so far, they will really be so if we can find a way to remove that radical faction altogether.

I don't want a troop invasion and have no vision of how outside of what has already been discussed. Mainly arming citizens somehow or???

I wish I was in the know on the next moves to help them gain control.
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:55 pm to
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Competing factions


I think it’s safe to assume it’s not your typical negotiation. It’s really just the US is dangling financial incentives and visas for friends and family to anyone that can make take control and appear friendly.

The same thing happened with Karai and his brother in Afghanistan. …and everyone knows how that worked out. They turned out so corrupt the afghans begged for the taliban’s return.
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:55 pm to
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President Donald Trump on Thursday said that “the war in Iran is going along swimmingly.”

“It should be ending pretty soon,” Trump said at an event in Las Vegas, echoing similarly rosy predictions about the end of the war that he has made since the United States and Israel launched attacks on Iran in late February.

“It was perfect. It’s perfect. It was the power we have,” the president said. “We had the most powerful military anywhere in the world.”
Trump says war with Iran "going swimmingly "and should end soon. CNBC
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 9:12 pm to
Its been 4 months since serious protests have begun. If there isn't a significant number of Iranians armed yet, they all need to surrender and convert to being Islamists. They arn't serious about regime change, and Trump probably realizes this.
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 9:14 pm to
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Trump says war with Iran "going swimmingly


How in the world do cultists keep falling for this stupid shite? He's literally just saying this shite so he and his cabal can manipulate the stock market for personal gain.
Posted by wfallstiger
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 9:17 pm to
As in members of Congress?
Posted by SundayFunday
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 9:31 pm to
I see you’re getting very frustrated - you’re working so hard yet no one believes you’re bullshite,


It’s sad, really
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 9:31 pm to
Cabal!

Personal gain!
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 9:35 pm to
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Posted by Tigerswillprevail
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 9:41 pm to
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How in the world do cultists keep falling for this stupid shite?


Do you believe Iran is doing well in this conflict? Your comment seems to imply that comments that the USA doing well is only for stock market manipulation.

Please share your thoughts.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 9:41 pm to
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They arn't serious about regime change,


Try using your God given brain once in awhile. 4 Iranians are about to be executed for just that. Are they not serious?

You face certain death rising up so of course they are afraid to act right now. Not to mention, Trump and Jahvid Reza already told them to hang tight, stay indoors and we’ll alert you when to strike.

Give those people a break dude.
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 9:46 pm to
No breaks. They are running out of time. They should have areas already under their control if there was ever going to be a rebellion.
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 9:48 pm to
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Posted on 4/16/26 at 9:58 pm to
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Consider the following problem. You have spent 5 weeks bombing an adversary's military infrastructure with extraordinary intensity, striking more than 13,000 targets. You have sealed underground missile bases by collapsing their tunnel entrances. You have destroyed air defense batteries, weapons factories, and naval vessels. And yet, by the end of those 5 weeks, you know that roughly half of the enemy's missile launchers survived, many of them buried alive under rubble you created. Your target list, once rich with confirmed military assets, has thinned by approximately 90%. The assets you failed to destroy are hidden beneath mountains of concrete and earth, and you cannot strike what you cannot see. What do you do?
You pause.
This is not weakness, and it is not charity. It is one of the oldest maneuvers in the history of air warfare. You stop bombing, let the enemy believe he has breathing room, and then you watch him dig. Every excavator he deploys, every tunnel entrance he clears, every missile launcher he drags back into the sunlight creates a new signature on your satellite imagery. A target that was invisible on April 7 becomes a confirmed, geolocated, strikeable asset by April 12. The ceasefire is not a concession. It is a collection operation.
The evidence that the US military is treating this 2-week pause exactly this way is now overwhelming, drawn from Pentagon briefings, satellite imagery published by CNN, statements from the Mossad director himself, and analyses from institutions ranging from the Council on Foreign Relations to War on the Rocks.
Begin with the surveillance architecture. Navy MQ-4C Triton drones, high-altitude surveillance platforms capable of persistent maritime and overland reconnaissance, have been flying continuous patrols over the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz throughout the ceasefire. Tracking data published by the Italian military radar monitoring account ItaMilRadar showed a Triton returning to its base at Sigonella, Sicily on April 14 after completing a patrol circuit. Another Triton crashed in the Middle East during the ceasefire period, a loss that underscores how aggressively these platforms are being flown. The EP-3E Aries II, one of the US Navy's premier signals intelligence aircraft, had its final operational deployment extended specifically because of the current conflict. These are not defensive assets. They exist to collect electronic emissions, map communications networks, and build the kind of granular intelligence picture that feeds precision targeting.
Above these aircraft sit the satellites. President Trump said the quiet part aloud in his Truth Social post announcing the ceasefire, declaring that Iran's buried enriched uranium is "under very exacting Satellite Surveillance." Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth confirmed the point at the Pentagon podium: "Right now, it's buried, and we're watching it. We know exactly what they have and they know that." This was not a throwaway line. It was a deliberate signal to Tehran that the overhead constellation, the network of electro-optical, synthetic aperture radar, and signals intelligence satellites that constitutes the backbone of US strategic reconnaissance, has been repositioned and tasked against Iranian recovery operations.
CNN proved the point with published imagery. Satellite photographs reviewed by the network show front-end loaders scooping rubble from blocked tunnel entrances at underground missile bases, with dump trucks lined up to haul the debris away. A satellite image of a missile base south of Tabriz, dated April 10, shows heavy equipment staged at a collapsed tunnel entrance. The implications are straightforward. US intelligence can now see which bases Iran considers most important, which tunnel complexes it is prioritizing for restoration, and which weapons systems it is attempting to recover first. Each of these observations generates a targetable data point that did not exist before the ceasefire began.
Sam Lair, a research associate at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies, told CNN that Iran's behavior is entirely predictable and, in fact, built into its military doctrine. Iran designed its "missile cities," the vast underground complexes housing mobile launchers and ballistic missiles, to absorb a first strike, dig out, and launch again. The concept of operations is cyclical: take the hit, clear the rubble, resume operations. But that cycle only works if the adversary is not watching. And the adversary is watching everything.
The intelligence bonanza extends beyond overhead imagery. Mossad Director David Barnea delivered remarkable public remarks at a Holocaust Remembrance Day ceremony on April 14, revealing that Israeli intelligence operatives had been active "in the heart of Tehran" during the 5-week air campaign and had provided targeting data directly to the Israeli Air Force. More importantly, Barnea made clear that the intelligence mission has not stopped with the ceasefire. "We did not think that our mission would be completed immediately with the fading of the battles," he said, "but rather we planned, and we planned to continue, and this will be manifested even after the time of attacks on Tehran." The Jerusalem Post reported that the Mossad told both Israeli and American officials that regime change would come after the war, not during it, framing the ceasefire explicitly as a preparatory intelligence phase.
CNN separately reported that US intelligence has detected China preparing to ship shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles, known as MANPADs, to Iran through third-country intermediaries during the ceasefire. As a result, the Trump administration was able to warn China against the shipment and China agreed to stop arming the Iranians. The fact that the US detected this supply chain in real time demonstrates that signals intelligence and human intelligence networks are fully active throughout the pause.
The analytical community has caught on to the strategic logic. Emzar Gelashvili, a former Georgian parliamentarian and security analyst, published an analysis in RealClearDefense on April 11 titled "Iran Crisis: This Is No Longer a Ceasefire, It's a Strategic Pause." He identified 3 distinct military purposes the pause serves. First, it enables battle damage assessment, the systematic evaluation of what was destroyed, what survived, and what the enemy is doing about it. Second, it demonstrates "managed warfare," signaling to Iran and to global markets that the US can start and stop hostilities at will. Third, it functions as a diplomatic ultimatum mechanism, what Gelashvili calls "Pressure Through Pause," giving Washington time to finalize logistics and coordinate with allies while presenting Iran with a narrowing window for negotiation. The American Spectator published a companion analysis with the same thesis, noting that the enriched uranium is "buried under a mountain we've bombed to smithereens and the site is under constant surveillance."
The Council on Foreign Relations offered the most consequential assessment: Iran is digging out weapons stored at underground sites blocked under rubble, and appears to be receiving Chinese assistance in rebuilding its air defenses. The more time Tehran gets, CFR noted, the more it can do to position itself for a resumption of fighting. This is true, but it misses the reciprocal dynamic. The more Iran reconstitutes, the more visible its surviving capability becomes to US collection platforms. Every launcher that emerges from a tunnel, every air defense radar that comes back online, every supply convoy carrying Chinese components across the border, all of it refreshes a target deck that had grown dangerously stale after 5 weeks of sustained bombardment.

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