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re: Ocasio-Cortez, progressives accuse Trump of using socialism as scare tactic

Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by Ebbandflow
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:47 pm to
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We were talking about income and corporate taxes, not local sales tax


I was actually talking about corporate taxes and then you started talking about income taxes. I don't know why other taxes aren't on the board as well
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:48 pm to
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I don't know why other taxes aren't on the board as well


In general, these are a totally different situation altogether.
Posted by Canada_Baw
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:50 pm to
Frankly I think they chose a stupid place to live and their government interventionism and environmental practices/policies have done them nothing but harm.

Maybe they shouldn’t cram 7,000 people per sq. Mile of land in LA and then expect to have endless water on tap.

Posted by Ebbandflow
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:50 pm to
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Military spending necessary.

State of military spending - ridiculous.


It's been very ridiculous for a long time. You guys were absolutely out of control during the George W bush presidency and every Republican that I know was for it. We even spent a bunch of tax dollars on nation building and giant embassies all for insider contracts. Republicans are usually for excessive military spending
Posted by Canada_Baw
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:51 pm to
If people are willing to pay taxes to get clean water why aren’t they willing to pay for clean water?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:51 pm to
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In general, these are a totally different situation altogether.


And so is putting money offshore so you don't have to pay as high of a corporate tax
Posted by Canada_Baw
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:52 pm to
I agree with you on military spending and it is certainly not a partisan issue.

It also has nothing to do with socialism.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:53 pm to
It seems not like sea level ris is anything new.



Perhaps people should choose more wisely where to locate
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:53 pm to
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If people are willing to pay taxes to get clean water why aren’t they willing to pay for clean water?


We can probably use some of those military funds.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:53 pm to
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It's been very ridiculous for a long time. You guys were absolutely out of control during the George W bush presidency and every Republican that I know was for it. We even spent a bunch of tax dollars on nation building and giant embassies all for insider contracts. Republicans are usually for excessive military spending


We could save a shite ton of money if we would just stop carrying Europe's water but anytime somebody talks about that the left acts like the end of the world is coming
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:53 pm to
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And so is putting money offshore so you don't have to pay as high of a corporate tax


A lower corporate tax will help
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:54 pm to
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And so is putting money offshore so you don't have to pay as high of a corporate tax


Corporate taxes are perhaps the stupidest invention in the history of taxes
Posted by Canada_Baw
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:54 pm to
Heck the administrative cost of simply involving government in any capacity creates deadweight loss that makes it unsustainable.

Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:55 pm to
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A lower corporate tax will help


Or they could just pay money that they clearly have and quit hiding it from the American people that they make so much money off of.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:56 pm to
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Heck the administrative cost of simply involving government in any capacity creates deadweight loss that makes it unsustainable.


I just thought it would be good to get it started that way. Think of a situation similar to Boeing contracting for the military
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:57 pm to
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Or they could just pay money that they clearly have and quit hiding it from the American people that they make so much money off of.


It would do far more good in iprivate investment markets and be more of a benefit to the people

Tax dollars just enrich the counties around D.C.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:57 pm to
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agree with you on military spending and it is certainly not a partisan issue.

It also has nothing to do with socialism.


Then what do you call the GI Bill? Or VA hospitals?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:58 pm to
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Corporate taxes are perhaps the stupidest invention in the history of taxes


Yeah?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:58 pm to
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Then what do you call the GI Bill? Or VA hospitals?


Not socialism.

Socialism has a specific meaning
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:02 pm to
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Not socialism.

Socialism has a specific meaning


So then it wouldn't be socialism if you expanded those GI Bill and VA rights to every American citizen, right?
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