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Posted on 12/15/16 at 12:19 am
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 12:19 am
How is it that Obama and his cronies in the media get away with the bravo sierra they get away with? To hear them talk he saved the United States from ruin in every way possible. Spiritually, morally, socially, militarily, globally, economically.

We are not less respected than at any time in our history, globally.

Spiritually we are bankrupt.

Morally we are bankrupt. We have catered to the criminals and the special interest groups to the point we're our collective souls as a country are damn near in ruin.

Socially we are divided like never before.

Militarily we are weaker than at any time since the Carter years ... and that's saying something considering how far we fell under Slick Willy.

And then there is economically.

Obama's Economy

(These are the latest figures released as of tonight in the wake of the Fed's rate hike and the glowing remarks from Yellen with regard to how well Obama has handled things from a financial perspective.)
Census Bureau, BLS, Treasury Department, CBO


- Lowest labor participation rates since the 1970s.
- Almost 95 million working age, able bodied, Americans out of the labor force.
- Worst recovery since the 1940s
- Lowest home ownership rate since the 1950s.
- Almost 13 million MORE Americans on food stamps than when Obama was sworn into office.
- Over 43 million Americans living in poverty - the most since the Great Depression.
- 1 in 5 families existing without at least one member of working age in the workforce.
- 1 in 6 men ages 18-34 are either incarcerated or not in the work force. (many cannot find jobs, are college educated, and living with their parents)
- 2-5 men ages 50-62 who are eligible and able to work unable to find gainful employment. Including the highest rate of unemployed white males from that age group in the history of this country.
- accumulated more debt for this country in eight years than all other presidents in our history combined. And that figure, due to his lingering policies, is expected to double in the next ten years.

Did Obama do anything, anything, good for this country?
Posted by GallatinTiger
KY
Member since Apr 2004
2232 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 4:56 am to
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Did Obama do anything, anything, good for this country?
. Showed how hyper leftist agenda from progressive elites in power fails everytime.
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4591 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 5:55 am to
Without him we never have a Trump. And he did usher in a majority Republican House, Senate, and Governorships unlike anything W could have done. There's your silver lining.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 5:57 am to
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Without him we never have a Trump. And he did usher in a majority Republican House, Senate, and Governorships unlike anything W could have done. There's your silver lining.


just like Clinton did

first Republican congress in 40+ years
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 6:37 am to
Add in that all of this was with free money from the Fed.....how can you frick up FREE MONEY????
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 7:22 am to
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- Worst recovery since the 1940s
Worst in US history
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62801 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 7:25 am to
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Did Obama do anything, anything, good for this country?

Seriously, the only good I'll give him is that he'll get credit for is bin Laden.

And Obama phones.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 7:37 am to
I know it will do no good because y'all are have had the facts all along and nothing has impacted you BUT the only way for evil to triumph and all of that....

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We are not less respected than at any time in our history, globally.


That is a good thing....it is better to be respected more than less...

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Spiritually we are bankrupt


Rigghhhhttttttt....

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Morally we are bankrupt. We have catered to the criminals and the special interest groups to the point we're our collective souls as a country are damn near in ruin.


Riiiggghhhhtttttt....

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Socially we are divided like never before.


Not even close....just 50 some odd years ago only white men were considered full citizens...it is hard to be "divided" when white men hold ALL of the power and women and minorities are treated like second class citizens...

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Militarily we are weaker than at any time since the Carter years ... and that's saying something considering how far we fell under Slick Willy.



Slick Willy's military defeated the 5th largets military in the world in a matter of days..slick Willy's military was a lean mean fighting machine cleansed and purged of dead weight. Obama's military has been at war for 14 years....it is not possible for it NOT to be weakened...to expect otherwise is fricking idiotic...en and equipment get used and worn out...

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Obama's Economy

(These are the latest figures released as of tonight in the wake of the Fed's rate hike and the glowing remarks from Yellen with regard to how well Obama has handled things from a financial perspective.)
Census Bureau, BLS, Treasury Department, CBO

- Lowest labor participation rates since the 1970s.
- Almost 95 million working age, able bodied, Americans out of the labor force.
- Worst recovery since the 1940s
- Lowest home ownership rate since the 1950s.
- Almost 13 million MORE Americans on food stamps than when Obama was sworn into office.
- Over 43 million Americans living in poverty - the most since the Great Depression.
- 1 in 5 families existing without at least one member of working age in the workforce.
- 1 in 6 men ages 18-34 are either incarcerated or not in the work force. (many cannot find jobs, are college educated, and living with their parents)
- 2-5 men ages 50-62 who are eligible and able to work unable to find gainful employment. Including the highest rate of unemployed white males from that age group in the history of this country.
- accumulated more debt for this country in eight years than all other presidents in our history combined. And that figure, due to his lingering policies, is expected to double in the next ten years.

Did Obama do anything, anything, good for this country?




Considering where he started and the fact that the GOP was all about party unity and the country be damned the economy is BOOMING along...imagine where we would have been with a Trump contingency in the GOP 8 years ago...a tax cutting and increased spending contingency the likes of which the GOP hasn't elected since Ronald Reagan...if the GOP 8 years ago had of had Reagan's penchant for spending money like a drunken sailor we would have to be begging folks from Mexico to come work in the US not talking about rounding them up and sending them home.

The GOP did a FANTASTIC job of achieving its goals that were set when Obama was elected...they have prevented the economy from recovering like it could have done had there been enough Reaganesque Republicans in congress...despite this Obama has done a pretty good job...
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5344 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 7:53 am to
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The GOP did a FANTASTIC job of achieving its goals that were set when Obama was elected...they have prevented the economy from recovering like it could have done had there been enough Reaganesque Republicans in congress...despite this Obama has done a pretty good job...


What prevention? Obama passed a trillion dollar plus stimulus and Obamacare. He passed thousand of new regulations every year plus attacked industry at every corner giving us the worst "recovery" ever in our history and you call that a good job? He's added 10 trillion in 8 years to our best and you still going to say he was prevented and did a good job?
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 7:57 am to
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What prevention? Obama passed a trillion dollar plus stimulus and Obamacare.


The stimulus was about $800 billion but I know that is a trillion plus in the GOP world....

When have we "recovered" from such a place as we did in 2008? When in the history of this country has one party publicly stated that the president must fail at any cost....that the only objective was to make certain he was a failure...if Obama was a failure it is because the GOP did what it said it was going to do my friend....I don't know why y'all won't accept that as a positive thing for your side...you did what your promised you would do...it fricking worked...you should be proud of that not run from it....
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5344 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:13 am to
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The stimulus was about $800 billion but I know that is a trillion plus in the GOP world....


Well genius your forgot the second one that year right after the first one oassed. It was 400 billion. Do the math.

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When have we "recovered" from such a place as we did in 2008? When in the history of this country has one party publicly stated that the president must fail at any cost....that the only objective was to make certain he was a failure...if Obama was a failure it is because the GOP did what it said it was going to do my friend....I don't know why y'all won't accept that as a positive thing for your side...you did what your promised you would do...it fricking worked...you should be proud of that not run from it....


Now your tap dancing. Can't even defend yourself without trying to blame some one else. TARP stabilized the economy. Obama never had a plan for reviving the economy which is why we have record food stamps and low job participation rates. Socialism and psuedosocialism are abject failures becuase they don't allow upward mobility.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:17 am to
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When have we "recovered" from such a place as we did in 2008? When in the history of this country has one party publicly stated that the president must fail at any cost....that the only objective was to make certain he was a failure...if Obama was a failure it is because the GOP did what it said it was going to do my friend....I don't know why y'all won't accept that as a positive thing for your side...you did what your promised you would do...it fricking worked...you should be proud of that not run from it....


Now your tap dancing. Can't even defend yourself without trying to blame some one else. TARP stabilized the economy. Obama never had a plan for reviving the economy which is why we have record food stamps and low job participation rates. Socialism and psuedosocialism are abject failures becuase they don't allow upward mobility.



I am only giving the GOP credit that they have said was their's my friend...are you saying that GOP was ineffectual for 8 years???
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:19 am to
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Seriously, the only good I'll give him is that he'll get credit for is bin Laden.



Are you sure? There was no body. Bin Laden may be living in Argentina with Hitler, Elvis, and John Kennedy.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24593 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:22 am to
If you showed presidential speeches and accomplishments and made people on this board rate them without looking at the name or picture of the president they were attached with, they would be much kinder to him.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31082 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:25 am to
If a Republican would have been in office and had the same economy as Obama, they would have been called one of the worst economic Presidents for the country.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98863 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:31 am to
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Considering where he started


Shows that the results are that much worse than they appear on paper.

This was a layup for Obama. He just didn't need to frick things up and stay out of the economy's way and it would have had a better recovery than what occurred. He certainly could have pursued pro-groth policies, and actually used the $800 billion "stimulus" for actual stimulus. The fact that we have the shitty results we have is a testament to just how much of a frickup Obama truly was.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18857 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:17 am to
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How is it that Obama and his cronies in the media get away with the bravo sierra...
MSM owned by Soros & DNC.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:24 am to
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germandawg


You know how i know when you are lying?

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Considering where he started and the fact that the GOP was all about party unity and the country be damned the economy is BOOMING along.


then you say this

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The GOP did a FANTASTIC job of achieving its goals that were set when Obama was elected...they have prevented the economy from recovering like it could have done had there been enough Reaganesque Republicans in congress


So what is it? Is the economy "booming" or failing? Has Obama created billions of jobs, or has the mean ole republicans stopped him from creating jobs?

Let's also not forget Obama making himself, and you look like colossal jackasses a couple months ago.

LINK

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Rewind to June, when Obama derided Trump for promising to bring jobs back to America by keeping companies like…uh…Carrier from taking production plants south of the border. “Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What exactly are you going to do? There’s no answer to it,” taunted Obama. “He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’ Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn’t have an answer,” insisted the incredulous president.


I guess Trump really does have a magic wand. So sad for you progs...
Posted by carlsoda
B Rah
Member since Dec 2009
5776 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:25 am to
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Rewind to June, when Obama derided Trump for promising to bring jobs back to America by keeping companies like…uh…Carrier from taking production plants south of the border. “Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What exactly are you going to do? There’s no answer to it,” taunted Obama. “He just says, ‘Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.’ Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn’t have an answer,” insisted the incredulous president.


I guess Trump really does have a magic wand. So sad for you progs...


I used this argument with a liberal friend of mine and her response was, "that deal wasn't all that great for anyone." I laughed and just said, "is there anything Trump could do that you would say, nice job to?" She changed the subject.

Moral: there is no one with more open mindedness than the far left, right up to the point you don't agree with them.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37655 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 11:37 am to
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Without him we never have a Trump. And he did usher in a majority Republican House, Senate, and Governorships unlike anything W could have done. There's your silver lining.


Excellent ... you're exactly correct. Had not considered that.
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