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re: NZ Parents refuse vaccinated blood for life-saving surgery on their baby
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:10 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:10 pm to GumboPot
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IDK what would be okay with these parents.
I suspect it wouldn't be ok because their concern is more likely the vaccine is harmful and there is likely to be some harmful remnants of it still in vaccinated blood.
People have all sorts of beliefs about medical harms, but if there's not a medically-justified reason, their belief is going to be similar to Jehovah's witnesses, except it won't have come from a religious community but from a highly-pilled epistemic community.
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:10 pm to lsunurse
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If you don’t trust the medical industry….then don’t seek care from them
This is such a dangerous stance. No person should be treated by someone with that opinion.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:11 pm to moneyg
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I’d also like to add that people like yourself and lsunurse that have no children really shouldn’t have a voice in this discussion.
What if I told you that some of the doctors caring for your child that would be making these decisions don’t have kids as well
I know pediatric surgeons without children…guess they also can’t weigh in on this discussion based on what you say
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:13 pm to moneyg
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This is such a dangerous stance. No person should be treated by someone with that opinion
It's the opinion of a child.
Most nurses aren't social geniuses.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:14 pm to moneyg
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shouldn’t have a voice in this discussion.
Read the link, the parents are being used by an anti vax group.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:15 pm to Lakeboy7
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the parents are being used by an anti vax group.
Being against the Covid Poison doesn't make someone "anti-vax".
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:18 pm to oogabooga68
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Being against the Covid Poison doesn't make someone "anti-vax".
They're running to reddit right now to find a proper retort.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:19 pm to lsunurse
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But the nurses and other staff caring for the patient also obviously know what is going on, since we are the ones dealing with the family on a more regular basis
People like you who have supported forced vaccination of children?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:20 pm to oogabooga68
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Being against the Covid Poison
New religion
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:22 pm to TigerDoc
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I suspect it wouldn't be ok because their concern is more likely the vaccine is harmful and there is likely to be some harmful remnants of it still in vaccinated blood.
People have all sorts of beliefs about medical harms, but if there's not a medically-justified reason, their belief is going to be similar to Jehovah's witnesses, except it won't have come from a religious community but from a highly-pilled epistemic community.
If I'm the doctor, for these highly technical procedures I do take into consideration the patients request but only to a point. Once that point is reached and there is an impasse either a higher authority assumes liability for me to move forward or the patient gets another doctor.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:23 pm to moneyg
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People like you who have supported forced vaccination of children?
These dweebs seem have the most advise on how to raise your child.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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RogerTheShrubber
Takes chemo to save his life
Vaccine: No its poison
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:24 pm to Lakeboy7
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New religion
Asking question is ALWAYS the first step toward knowledge.
Sheep like you who are afraid to question are the D-hadists in the equation.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:25 pm to lsunurse
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What if I told you that some of the doctors caring for your child that would be making these decisions don’t have kids as well
You are conflating issues. I’m saying you shouldn’t have a voice in this thread because you aren’t a parent.
I’m saying you shouldn’t have a voice in decisions like this because you are only a nurse.
Furthermore, I’m saying that the care you do give is subpar given your “either follow the demands of medical professionals or you get no care” stance.
Doctors and the medical profession as a whole should do everything possible to meet the requests like this. If no other options exist and it’s a life or death decision then doctors can make a call. But they would do so under the all of the risk that comes with that decision.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:27 pm to Lakeboy7
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Takes chemo to save his life
Vaccine: No its poison
I am vaccinated, Gomer Pyle
I've also been told by y oncologists that it was a waste.
Ignorance does look good on you.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:27 pm to Lakeboy7
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Takes chemo to save his life
Vaccine: No its poison
This is a humorous logic fail.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:28 pm to moneyg
No shite. Imagine being a walking imbecile like him.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I am vaccinated,
Of course you are, given your lifestyle you are a walking laundry list of co-morbidities
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:31 pm to lsunurse
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I know pediatric surgeons without children…guess they also can’t weigh in on this discussion based on what you say
Didn't you vote for the pedophile in the White House?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:31 pm to GumboPot
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If I'm the doctor, for these highly technical procedures I do take into consideration the patients request but only to a point. Once that point is reached and there is an impasse either a higher authority assumes liability for me to move forward or the patient gets another doctor.
I agree. For this specific issue, I think the track record of vaccination and transfusion are important. We've been transfusing people for many decades and vaccinating people for hundreds of years. I don't know of any harm that comes from receiving vaccinated blood. Could there be a new harm from a new vaccine? Sure, but if you had to sort blood for every new vaccine product that came into the population it would be massively onerous and for no proven justification and people would end up refusing transfusions that would be safe and beneficial to them.
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