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re: NYT Photographer Doug Mills wins Pulitzer Prize for Photo showing bullet whizzing by Trump
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:00 am to MemphisGuy
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:00 am to MemphisGuy
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Is that Joe leaving for the last time?
Pretty certain Biden was headed to talk to his son Beau, on the right, sitting on the mantel.
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Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:21 am to jrodLSUke
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Fight Fight Fight should have won
True. That one changed the momentum of the game though, so obviously not appreciated by the judges. The bullet one was downplayed so much, because it was actual proof.
I would guess the Fight one wasn't taken by an approved photographer
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:40 am to tide06
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It’s pure luck that
-he was in the exact right position
-with the exact right camera
-at the exact right time
-despite being in a live shooter situation took a nation changing picture without flinching
Agree with all but your last point. He had no idea there was a live shooter when he snapped that photo. The sound of the shot had not reached him yet.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:53 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I don’t think it is the bullet you are seeing in that photo as a bullet from a rifle is too fast to be captured on regular cameras.
In my opinion what you are seeing is fragments of his ear from the shot. Little pieces of skin and blood coming off of the bullet.
Prove me wrong.
In my opinion what you are seeing is fragments of his ear from the shot. Little pieces of skin and blood coming off of the bullet.
Prove me wrong.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:31 am to tide06
The photo was taken before the photographer even heard the shots. Speed of sound versus speed of bullets.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:04 pm to Bass Tiger
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Camera Requirements: High Frame Rate: A high frame rate is crucial to capture the fast-moving projectile and associated events. For ballistics, frame rates of 10,000 fps and higher are often needed, depending on the projectile's velocity and the details you need to capture.quote:
It's interesting that a photographer with the high end camera was available that day to capture that pic.......coincidence.
Yes, but that picture doesn't capture any ballistic details. The bullet's fuzzy trail is about a foot long. I think someone did the math at the time, but I don't think it takes anywhere near 10,000 fps to catch a bullet traveling a foot in one frame.
From AI:
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A 55-grain bullet fired from an AR-15 at 3,200 fps will likely be traveling around 2,300-2,500 fps(feet per second) at 500 feet.
So a shutter speed of 1/2500 would be fast enough, and the photo was taken in bright light, so that's a reasonable shutter speed. I don't think that is one frame of a video, but rather one capture from a camera that maybe can take 10 of those frames per second.
More from AI:
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Professional journalist still cameras can typically capture between 3 and 14 frames per second (fps) in continuous shooting mode.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:13 pm to MidWestGuy
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Professional journalist still cameras can typically capture between 3 and 14 frames per second (fps) in continuous shooting mode.
Canon R1 which a lot of professionals use shoots 40 frames per second.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:24 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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As significant as the photo is, I can't see it being Pulitzer worthy. It's pure luck that he captured the bullet.
That’s silly. Unless is a staged photo op, every pic a photographer gets is pure chance.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:38 pm to Bass Tiger
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It's interesting that a photographer with the high end camera was available that day to capture that pic.......coincidence.
So your conspiracy is that the camera man knew he was getting shot or it was staged or fake image?
I’ve done photography at a very high level and I can say most of my crazy images are simply being at the right place at the right time with the camera ready. I 100% believe it is real and just a lucky photo likely after hearing a snap of the first shot and bursting the shutter. Guarantee the meta data matches the time and has been verified.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:26 am to Bestbank Tiger
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It's pure luck that he captured the bullet.
I'd reckon that's why it's so special.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:30 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Trump was centimeters from having his head evaporate on national TV. What crazy thing we will all see in our lifetime…
Posted on 5/9/25 at 5:29 am to Bass Tiger
quote:This article has been on my mind regarding this.
To photograph high-speed ballistics, you'll need a high-speed camera capable of capturing at least 10,000 frames per second (fps) and often much higher. The cost of such a camera can range from a few thousand dollars for a consumer-grade high-speed camera to well over $100,000 for a professional-grade model.
Camera Requirements:
High Frame Rate:
A high frame rate is crucial to capture the fast-moving projectile and associated events. For ballistics, frame rates of 10,000 fps and higher are often needed, depending on the projectile's velocity and the details you need to capture.
The odds of capturing this shot redefines "infinitesimally", all but non existent
IOW, with an appropriate high speed camera, which this wasn't, and the camera position prepared and set, not just undone here but woefully setup, there is already virtually no chance of such a result.
In fact, I am going with - didn't happen
[in the land of propagandism, shameful ethics, and morals]
Posted on 5/9/25 at 5:31 am to LSUGrrrl
quote:no, it is absolutely not
Unless is a staged photo op, every pic a photographer gets is pure chance.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 5:31 am to Bass Tiger
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It's interesting that a photographer with the high end camera was available that day to capture that pic.......coincidence.
Yeah. Most outdoor election year campaign rallies don’t have people with nice cameras at them. Especially Trump. He rarely draws a crowd or any media attention
Posted on 5/9/25 at 5:58 am to Penrod
Correct. Trump didn’t even know in that pic yet
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:06 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
It's telling, imo... that the winning picture is of the bullet whizzing by rather than the triumphant aftermath "fight" photo.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:38 am to FriendofBaruch
I didn’t mean their ability to capture what happens when most people couldn’t. I also don’t mean where their eye for what makes a great photo. I mean live action shots.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:50 am to Bestbank Tiger
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As significant as the photo is, I can't see it being Pulitzer worthy. It's pure luck that he captured the bullet.
I can see your point, but sometimes it takes some luck. Think about Abraham Zapruder, who is the only person to capture JFK's assassination on film. It was pure luck, but not many people had movie cameras in 1963. In 1999, his family was awarded $16 million in arbitration for the film.
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 7:20 am to LSUGrrrl
quote:yah, you're cool Grrrl
I didn’t mean their ability to capture what happens when most people couldn’t. I also don’t mean where their eye for what makes a great photo. I mean live action shots.
In a previous life, I was a trained forensic/evidence photographer, did some major published writings of a major news event, and before that was offered to be a pro photog.
What I don't do is make guesses out of the blue re what someone claims in their photos. This one will just have to remain doubtful to me for now.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 7:47 am to FriendofBaruch
I’ve worked with a number of photographers over the years. I can definitively say that their photos were always miles apart from anything I would have produced. 
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