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re: NY Times: Pentagon’s UFO Program - aerospace/esoteric/quantum mechanics/future

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Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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THE GREEK GODS WERE NOT JUST MYTHOLOGIES ON PAGES OR STONE. THEY ARE FOR REAL NOW AND THEY WERE THEN AND IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT?

That is exactly what is being told to me.


Next post will address this Greek connection
Will post much later about Prometheus (the guise of “fiction” is the best way to present difficult truths)

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PROMETHEUS WAS WITH THE TITANS VERSUS ZEUS WHO WON THE WAR. BUT PROMETHEUS GAVE HUMANITY FIRE. WHAT IS THAT RELATIONSHIP? PROMETHEUS FAVORING HUMANITY’S SURVIVAL, NOT ANNIHILATION. THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH ENLIL AND ENKI IN THE ANNUNAKI. ENKI IS THE ONE WHO FOUGHT ENLIL OVER WHETHER TO ANNIHILATE HUMANITY. AND RIGHT NOW, WE’RE IN THE 21ST CENTURY BECAUSE PROMETHEUS AND ENKI PREVAILED.

Yeah. Around the time of the ancient Greek civilization, these ‘gods’ came in and they passed down a huge amount of knowledge. That’s when we got the alphabet and that’s when we really got the mathematics and everything that we know that comes with the ancient Greek civilization. I put down on a question — I said, ‘It looks to me like these ‘gods’ came down here and they tampered with the Sumerian civilization. And then they started fighting amongst themselves and then mankind started to fractionalize (split into factions). Well, something happened with those ‘gods’ fighting other ‘gods’ that we have all those ancient myths of Olympus and the Titans and all of that stuff. After that, it seems to me that the ‘gods’ stuck around and they started playing up the different religions between mankind. So we can now be so entertained fighting each other that this Intelligence can roam around the planet to do whatever else it’s trying to do — whether it’s trying to tamper with the DNA of mankind. Or it’s trying to figure out how to harness a human being’s soul. Whatever it might be after, I’m not totally sure. Everything in my early communications with my advisers were fine, but when I touched on the idea of hybrids and the human soul is when all the communication stopped on that thread. So, I have to look at that as something I shouldn’t have been going into at the time.


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Geopolitical Territorial “Triangulation” On Earth in 2016: Russia, U. S. and The Others

In my advisory group, they call it a triangulation stranglehold where there are three players: us, Russia, and The Others. And no one wants to move out of step to initiate a conflict where two of those three players have been given hardware. And that hardware has allowed us to come to a big line in the sand (nuclear weapons) to where we’ve almost annihilated all of mankind on Earth many times over.

So it’s been quoted that they call this the great stranglehold where us and Russia are always looking down the barrel of a gun, but the gun was given to us by The Others.
And all of this just perhaps to see who is stronger! And that’s the other thing that’s really scary about this thing. The Others — they are trying to fix something with/in their DNA — they are trying to tamper with the machinery of the universe, which is the human soul.
Maybe because They don’t have one, like the Bible says. Those Fallen Angels were jealous of mankind and They hated man. (laughs) I have no idea, but maybe they are trying to create wars to get us to kill each other and whoever is left standing must be a stronger race.




Reframe the more recent Russia, Russia, Russia
Who really controls the media (literally fake news...)

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WELL, TOM, DOESN’T THAT IMPLY THAT AT LEAST THE UNITED STATES AND THE ALLIES FROM WORLD WAR II HAVE HAD AN ALLY IN ONE OF THESE ALIEN PRESENCES?

Yes, I have been told there are good ‘gods’ and bad ‘gods.’ Period. I was invited a week and a half ago to fly out to a different state and sit with two people from various intelligence divisions. During the Bush Jr. administration, they were very aware of the UFO phenomenon and it was a major subject for their decision-making. I think if you are dealing with a subject like this where these non-human entities are creating wars and creating religions that hate each other and they are possibly abducting world leaders and influencing the way they make decisions, it completely changes everything if you knew what they are making their decisions based on.

WWII Was Extraterrestrial War Working Through Humans?

THAT FROM WORLD WAR II ON WHERE IT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED BY SOME WORKING IN THE ALPHABET SOUP TO ME OVER THE LAST 3.5 DECADES THAT WORLD WAR II WAS AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL WAR WORKING THROUGH HUMANS.

My advisory group said that there are various ‘gods’ competing with each other and competing through mankind with different religions. I do know that even as close as 36 months ago, UFOs were shutting down our nuclear weapons in the oceans.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT?

I don’t feel comfortable giving anymore details than that, but what I do think is important here is that this hasn’t gone away. Do They not want nuclear weapons because if the nuclear weapons go off, it can kill them? Or do they not want nuclear weapons happening because it contaminates the DNA of mankind? And They are trying to farm us for whatever reason They are farming us for? I just know that it’s not only in the 1970s we hear these stories about UFOs turning off weapons when we’re doing tests. But what people also don’t know back in the 1970s and what was being described to me was that UFOs were turning on our weapons just to get the Russians to see that and launch theirs first to create a nuclear war. There are heroes in Russia. Under grave risk to himself and to his countrymen, he did not fire back. Maybe They don’t want nuclear war. Maybe They just want to scare everybody, but it doesn’t look like that when you look at the facts. Either way, a bunch of men and women in Washington, D. C. in these dark little offices have to figure out what all that means! And they are trying their hardest. And I don’t think they know every answer and I think they need all the support they can get.

They don’t think that everybody can handle all this. They think there is a large portion of the global audience that don’t have the skill sets to cope with that type of reality. But, I disagree. And the reason I disagree is the youth (Millennial Generation) have grown up with the internet. And they have grown up connected to a world that has changed so drastically with technology over the past 50 to 60 years, we can’t even possibly perceive what the next generation of youth will be capable of handling.


The TTSA model is what he is trying to leverage to reach them...

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Posted on 5/30/19 at 11:25 am to
Here is where it gets even freakier...

https://www.earthfiles.com/2018/08/09/part-7-mysterious-metal-from-bottom-of-wedge-shaped-ufo-update-1996-2018-research/

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AUGUST 9, 2018 BY LINDA MOULTON HOWE
Part 7: Mysterious Metal from Bottom of Wedge-Shaped UFO — Update 1996-2018 Research


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This Part 7 is new to my Earthfiles reports about my investigations of the Bismuth/MagnesiumZinc layered metals. The following interview transcript is from my recorded interview on February 2, 2017, with a whistleblower physicist, who requests anonymity. He contacted me to say he had been following my efforts to investigate the Bi/MgZn since 1996, and wanted me to know that he had worked with a large “skin” of the same layered metal underground at Area 51, Nevada, in the 1970s.

But the physicist said he worked on a slab of the layered metal that was 6 feet long and 3 feet wide! That, he said, was the outer skin that covered the entire wedge-shaped craft, not just the underside. The key he stressed was the inner skin of pure aluminum that has “mono-iridium atoms intelligently placed at the atomic and sub-atomic level of the inner skin.” It’s the combination of the two parallel skins that disconnects the craft from Earth’s gravity, inertia and atmosphere.


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“The magnesium-zinc alloy is an electrogravitic rectifier. You energize it in order to cause it to rectify gravitational field energy — unidirectional force, one direction, based upon how you have the material oriented. And when the Bi/MgZn material is being energized, along with the other structure of the craft — the structure of the craft really negates gravitational energy from penetrating. In other words, it becomes weightless. So, from that is no inertia, it’s essentially weightless. It takes very little energy to push it around. So when it’s in that state, that’s when you can push it around with electrogravitic material. So you strengthen it in the direction that you want to activate the electrogravitic material. Otherwise, it balances out all the way around and you are neutrally buoyant. You are just floating there. But when you strengthen the field in any given direction, you change the amount of electrogravitic force in that particular direction


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Now, the material has to be literally bombarded with non-Hertzian energy from terahertz frequencies. It cannot be electromagnetic. It has to be pulses, very fast pulses, very fast transition times. Modern electronics cannot achieve this. Generators have to be designed specifically for this application. If someone tries to use an off-the-shelf component to build a terahertz generator, I don’t think he is going to be able to do it. But I built one.

Linda: DID YOU BUILD YOURS TO GENERATE THE NON-HERTZIAN FREQUENCIES?

Yes. And I used technology that was discovered by Nicolai Tesla. He called it non-Hertzian energy.


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SO HOW DID TESLA DO THAT?

Tesla did it electromechanically. He literally used contacts. Commutators. Spark gaps. That’s the entire key to being able to do wireless transmission of power. It’s not done with electromagnetics. It’s not done through magnetic induction. Even his coils and transformers were not formed to use the magnetic field. He matched mass, primary and secondary mass, in order to get coupling. If the layered metal is subjected to magnetic fields, it will make the monatomic iridium leave and then the layered metal won’t work. Magnetic fields will ruin the layered metal material. So all the experimentation to this date from 1996 that you have reported about would make the monatomic iridium leave, so none of the tests tried so far would work. Also, in the Army guy’s first letter dated April 10, 1996 (Part 1), it says: ‘The Dimensional Powerplant was self-destructed, and the inter-atmospheric propulsion system also deactivated to prevent the technology from falling into the hands of the Terrans (humans).’


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SO IS IT THE BISMUTH/MAGNESIUM-ZINC LAYERED SKIN THAT IS EMITTING THE TERAHERTZ FREQUENCY THAT CAN DAMAGE HUMAN TISSUES AND MANIPULATE HUMAN MINDS?

It’s actually the drive energy that is going through the material, penetrating and radiating out from the craft.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT IN MORE DETAIL?
No, I can’t.

BECAUSE?
We’re delving into highly classified areas here.


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CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT YOU SAW AND IF THERE WERE ANY SYMBOLS OR HIEROGLYPHS?

Yes, there were, but they are not visible until you remove the inspection covers. I can’t get into that, because that particular aspect of what I worked on was never declassified.

I HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WERE GIVEN TO ME BY SANTILLI IN LONDON WITH PERMISSION THAT SHOW SYMBOLS ON BEAMS AND WHEN I DID A SEARCH OF MY OWN GOING TO ALL THE ANCIENT LANGUAGES OF EARTH, THEY MATCHED ANCIENT GREEK.

I wouldn’t doubt that.




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alleged 1947 U. S. Army film of UFO crash debris near Socorro, NM, contained this I-beam with symbols that resemble ancient Greek letters


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DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHTS ABOUT THE MATCH OF ANCIENT GREEK TO THE SYMBOLS INSIDE OF THESE CRAFT IN WHICH THE SKIN IS THE BISMUTH MAGNESIUM-ZINC LAYERED METAL?

I can’t do that. I can’t give that information out publicly.

BUT YOU DO HAVE KNOWLEDGE? Yes. AND IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT THE GREEKS WERE PROBABLY ANOTHER INTELLIGENCE BASED ON THIS PLANET AND NOT EVOLUTIONARY HOMO SAPIENS?

I can’t say that (laughs), I’m sorry, I can’t delve into that.

WELL, I’VE BEEN TOLD IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT IS IN FACT THE TRUTH.

I can say this much – there have been more advanced civilizations on this planet prior to us that were far more advanced than we are today.”


Delonge talked about this on Rogan podcast (he state that symbols above mean “freedom”)
gods of old...

Interesting times...


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Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:23 pm to
Thine, any links/articles related to the presence of unknowns in the ocean/arctic? I'm fascinated with reading about the potential existence of terrestrial presence.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 1:00 pm to
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Thine, any links/articles related to the presence of unknowns in the ocean/arctic? I'm fascinated with reading about the potential existence of terrestrial presence.


I am still exploring this myself:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/25784/what-u-s-submariners-actually-say-about-detection-of-so-called-unidentified-submerged-objects

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What U.S. Submariners Actually Say About Detection Of So-Called Unidentified Submerged Objects Big claims abound about mysterious objects submariners detect below the waves, so we went straight to the source and what we found out was surprising.
BY TYLER ROGOWAYJANUARY 3, 2019


https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5493186?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAF_8Aftky1AO4Dt0p-ClDvA252rNKFvvxPA8YvedU2zxuGXhg5fwHsHv8gm0kXyRl_9YJ4BwgXcecn1ncAQj8PoQe7xMKhOnEoOv8MrFiPSqFa3_F9NQOzpwudwZX8Gh2lGIaB2LPajIzUtScRON0naCN4UwHbRnUL40SX-Db0mH

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The Truth Behind The Malibu Underwater ‘Alien Base’ By Lee Speigel 06/19/2014 09:27 AM ET | Updated Dec 06, 2017


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A little more than 6 miles off the coast of Point Dume in Malibu, California, an unusual-looking structure sits on the sea bed floor. Based on images obtained on Google Earth, the oval-shaped object has a huge flat top and what appear to be pillars or columns that seem to reveal the entrance to a darker, inner place. The anomaly — for the moment, we’ll call it that — is approximately 2,000 feet below the surface of the water, measuring nearly 3 miles wide. What exactly is this thing?


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The Huffington Post one of his listeners — someone named Maxwell — contacted him last month with a Google Earth image showing something odd, underwater off the coast of Malibu. Church then asked graphic designer Dale Romero to capture as many angled images of the anomaly as he could. “I needed him to find a way to get it under and above the water,” Church said. “My first impression was that it was Greek, it looked artificial and didn’t look natural. “When you’re looking at it from above, it’s a nearly perfect oval shape,” Church continued. “In the natural surroundings, nothing is symmetrical. Everything is eroded and covered in rocks and sloping and peaking, and right here, for 2 miles, it is a perfect oval with a black separation or outline to it. “It just stands out that it has to be some type of roof. It’s not unlike a domed stadium or a covered indoor race track or an Olympic arena — it’s got that feel to it. It looks like a perfect oval manmade structure sitting on a construction site.”





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Search this site:

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1215276/pg1
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 2:39 pm to
How does Fukushima weigh in on all of this submariner life?
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 3:25 pm to
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arctic


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ietepMpDUTE

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Linda Moulton Howe Live – 05/15/2019


This is part 4
Search for the others on the YouTube channel
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Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:42 am to
Luis Elizondo (former director of Pentagon UAP program) on Tucker Carlson program

He acknowledges US possession of crashed UAP material (metamaterial...)

This is getting little play outside the US...
I can speak from firsthand experience

https://m.youtube.com/watch?lc=UgwFohLQTUsgYUZ3m5x4AaABAg&v=ZOzhb8ZHBxw

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The US Gov possesses crashed UFOs - Confirmation 1,220 views


Other vids on mainstream outlets:

Good Morning America

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hz06sXefNPg

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Military Personnel Warn Of UFO Sightings - ABC News 878 views


Fox

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8tRSRghWteg

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Fox News Segment: UFOs Exist And Do Things 'This World Is Not Capable Of'
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:05 am to
Fox News /Brett Baier piece about UAPs and article below :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=7JIzPKAMQW8

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UFO Presence - Politico - Washington Examiner Statement 169 views




https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-the-ufo-story-is-far-more-interesting-than-you-think

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Why the UFO story is far more interesting than you think
by Tom Rogan


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Most informed individuals I have talked to believe that the Tic Tac-like UFOs are unmanned vehicles operating under direction from either a manned or larger unmanned vessel. A particularly interesting evidentiary point here is the witness testimony by Cmdr. David Fravor during his time as commanding officer for a naval fighter squadron assigned to the Nimitz carrier strike group. In the November 2004 Nimitz incident, Fravor describes seeing both the Tic Tacs and "something in the water... looks like waves are going to crash over the top and you're going to get this white-water."


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Some discredit these witness reports. The New York Times report, for example, interviews astrophysicist Leon Golub. Golub suggests that the aircrew testimony is a result of "bugs in the code for the imaging and display systems, atmospheric effects and reflections, neurological overload from multiple inputs during high-speed flight." I strongly disagree, because the credible witness statements are numerous, matched to data recordings, and associated with a far larger set of similar incidents currently not public. But while natural phenomena such as that under the theoretical phenomena of ball lightning is a strong possibility in some UFO cases, I strongly believe other UFOs reported by naval aviators and other military professionals are not natural phenomena. First, UFOs have repeatedly shown what seems to be intelligence in their operation and behavior-response to manned aircraft and monitoring systems in their vicinity. I am led to believe that the Russians (including in the Soviet era) have repeatedly tried and failed to shoot down UFOs, which have practiced evasive techniques.


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In addition, UFOs have shown an ability to travel at hypersonic speeds with anti-gravity characteristics. Some underwater phenomena are also capable of supercavitation speeds of hundreds of miles per hour underwater. Note that when it comes to underwater objects, the recorded size indicates they are not torpedoes or vessels of any known type.

Fourth, UFOs often show evidence of plasma manipulation, possibly in relation to manifested cloaking capabilities.

I am also extraordinarily confident these UFOs are not the creation of any current government or private interest. They are definitely not U.S. in origin, and they are far in advance of Chinese and Russian capabilities — including in the field of hypersonic capabilities (which the Russians lead in).

So where does this leave us?




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You should, for example, listen to credible individuals such as Luis Elizondo — former head of the Pentagon's former UFO research agency, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. Elizondo does not talk about aliens. But you should not listen to Elizondo's To The Stars Academy colleague, Tom DeLonge (the musician is overexcited and says things that are unbound from analytical credibility). Still, this is an interesting issue in many areas. Take the research by NASA into space-time manipulation, for example. Or the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-contracted study into faster than light travel. Take a guess why the study was authorized.


Of note, Delonge has been pretty tight lipped since all this went mainstream

Prior to that, he was said some interesting stuff... (reference prior posts in this thread and the next post to follow)
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:13 am to
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/905xw3/some_notes_on_tom_delonges_interview_with_jimmy/

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Some notes on Tom Delonge's interview with Jimmy Church on Fade to Black, August 30th, 2016 u/kiwibonga


From link above:

Tom Delonge tells the story of the time he was invited to a secure government facility and pitched his media project to a high ranking contact. He describes once again going through numerous security checkpoints.
At some point, the conversation with his contacts steered towards the topic of "consciousness" in relation to how the spacecraft are piloted.
The UFO phenomenon is tied to consciousness. He acknowledges that for a lot of people, it's going to sound like hokey pokey.
The UFO phenomenon is connected to a special property of our universe that is manifested in all lifeforms. There's something special about the human body and emotions. If you had the proper tools, you could pick up the electromagnetic frequencies that are "emanating" from a human being and get a different readout depending on whether the person is happy, angry, jealous, etc. The UFO phenomenon is interested in the bad things, and it brings along a lot of bad things. But the good news is, when a human being feels good, feels loved, that energy is like a "death nuke missile" straight to the UFO. We found that out over the years and we're trying to understand it, but it's very complex stuff.
We're making progress, but every time there's a breakthrough, every turn we take, we find something new that might be a lie, that might be deceptive, that might be a trick...
The whole idea of the "bad government" or a "cabal" or "secret space programs" is dumb. We're talking about regular people that are read into classified programs and find themselves "changing their pants every night" because they're trying to figure out how to deal with something that is strange and crazy.
He says we've figured out "the capacity of a human being that is enlightened that has those frequencies of human consciousness" that are on the same level as emotions like love, happiness or "the way a child feels and all that stuff."
"We're gonna have to find a way to accelerate that. We're gonna have to find a way to accelerate that in a way that people don't laugh at it."
He says if you're in the middle of an abduction by little grey aliens and you call the name of Jesus, the abduction just stops. But you can also call out the name of "The Source of Galactic Love." Or call out "Buddha." It's the fact that you are projecting positive energy, and that is something that needs to be understood and studied.
But the fact is, there is a physical phenomenon. There are crashes. There are biological bodies. There's technology we can back-engineer. But there's a component related to human consciousness that we also have to learn about and understand. It's very complex and difficult.
He talks about the different people he's talking to in relation to all those issues.
There are physicists studying the crashed craft.
Medical doctors who studied abductees or people who were affected by craft.
People whose job it is to take things out of the sky as soon as they're spotted.
Psychologists meeting people who had an experience and who want to understand why the person has "poltergeist phenomena" in their house. "Or, healed. Mysteriously healed. Cancer gone."
He says he was able to get all these different classes of people talking with each other.
Jimmy Church then cuts in and asks if Delonge is a Bennewitz, just being fed false information. He answers "no."
"There's a whole bunch of stuff I can't say. This week, there were 2 nights in a row where I didn't sleep."
Delonge says he's in touch with different stovepipes. All the stovepipes lead to a very, very, very small group of people. He talked to those people and pitched them an idea, and they agreed to collaborate on it. But he explains it's much bigger than him. It's also much bigger than reading all those conspiracy theories and all those idiots online who write all that stupid stuff about, "you know, globalists, alien agendas and reptile presidents..."
He suggests we should be mature about it. We're in a very pivotal time in our evolution and we're going to be dealing with some things that we always thought were magic, fairy tales or mythology. We're going to have to find a way to accept that stuff, and humanity will explode to a new place that's going to be wonderful. But we have to go about it the right way.
Explaining slow disclosure: It's like if you have to explain to your kid what ISIS is. You wouldn't go fetch a video of a beheading from the internet. And it's not like we can't go drop a nuke on ISIS, they're not more powerful than us, but they're still bad news. This is actually what's been going on for 70-some years. "It's figuring out strategies to comprehend and outwit before we educate."
Delonge states that he's very confident about the way things are heading. He expects that as his Sekret Machines project rolls out, people will realize that he wasn't lying.
He says people have no idea who he's dealing with and where he's at. "They can write articles about it and they can say... stupid stuff... like I quit my band to find aliens. No. That's not what it is. I'm doing something for the country with very important people that will affect the whole world and I made my way in there with a plan that I think may help. I don't think I'm gonna change the world, but I do want to be one of the sparks with a lot of other sparks that do that. And with the fire that ignites, it's gonna be pretty effin' awesome."
UFOs are bad news. But his group is going to come out and say: this is what we found out, this is what we did, and this is what we're doing, and this is where the human race is going and guess what, consciousness is incredible. It's all the head scientist wants to talk about.
There is a god, but it's not a god that looks like Buddha, or has Birkenstocks or whatever. It's a beautiful energy that connects all of us and it creates stars and galaxies.
He explains that the UFO phenomenon is intricately connected to that energy.
He mentions his CE-5 camping experience and urges other people not to try it. He describes a sleep paralysis experience where he heard hundreds of voices all around his tent. He closed his eyes and reopened them, and 2-3 hours passed.
There's a lot of things that exist but that we can't see. It's normal biological/physical stuff, but we call it spiritual because we can't see it.
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:15 am to
That first link seems like it should be headline news, across the world.

A former government official, who seems to have had a postion where he might know of such things, says that the US government has in its possesion material from a UFO?

Even if there is the possibility he is engaging in hyperbole or something, shouldn't something like this be plastered across the front of all major newspapers?

"Elizondo indicates UFO's exist and the goverment has material from one - our experts weigh in below."
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:17 am to
Continued:

He says he was about to put out a piece of his documentary, but some major stuff has come up in the past 2 weeks that caused him to reconsider.
"I am 3 trillion percent sure that there is a god. I will stake my life on it." But it's not a person. It's beautiful love consciousness that's in the center of a galaxy, that explodes out and creates stars and planets. All the beings that are created have a radio signal back to the source.
The universe is teeming with life. There are intelligences at all different levels on a lot of different planets. There's humans everywhere; super-humans with telepathic powers even. Some of them are like us. Some of them are cavemen. There's also inorganic beings on rock planets; oxygen is toxic to them. There's weird bands of light that swim in space like whales. There's amoebas that are going around sucking energy -- some of them could be as big as jupiter, or as big as a volkswagen, it varies.
This reality is something we weren't aware of because we didn't "look up." After a while, "someone" started looking up and trying to understand what they were seeing, and eventually they told NASA "it's okay, you can look up now."
Jimmy Church talks about an experience he had at Contact in the Desert where he saw a craft through nightvision goggles and it appeared to be putting on a show. He wants to know if that happened because he was projecting positive vibes. Tom Delonge replies that "No, it's playing with you. OK? That's not a good thing. Everyone there wants to see one so bad that it's gonna perform for you. And you don't want to be doing that. I'm not saying that all life out there is bad, I'm saying people just don't understand."
He then goes on to explain that these things have been seen throughout history, would land, would perform miracles, which in turn created religions. But the thing is, the phenomenon kept doing that in different places, and every time, a different religion would get created. And what happened after that? We started killing each other. No one stopped to talk about what they saw and put it all together.
He says religions are actually all cargo cults. This is a theory he put together with Peter Levenda for his first non-fiction book (Sekret Machines: Gods).
First, it creates religious experiences. And then, once it has us believing different things, once it has us polarized, that's when the crashes start happening, and new war technology gets discovered.
When he explained this theory, that's when he started being taken seriously by his contacts.
The problem, as he understands it, is everyone is busy trying to put out a fire, but they're just fanning the flames, they're not actively extinguishing the source of the fire. They're too busy standing behind their beliefs and are not willing to accept that all these belief systems that divide us come from the same source.
This thing that happens is always specific to the people and the region it happened. It's always different. By design, it's meant to divide mankind by creating different beliefs. Tom Delonge firmly believes he was let into the inner circle because he understood this.
Tom Delonge then tells a story about how he went camping with friends after hearing rumors that Bigfoot was sighted. He published this photo on his Instagram: LINK ... Story doesn't really go anywhere.
He talks about witnessing a magic trick during a meeting where one of his government contacts told a friend who was present to go grab a spoon or fork. When the friend came back, the government official asked him to put it behind his back. When he took it out again, it was bent.
If you knew who these people were, you'd be crapping your pants. "Magic is real. But it's not magic, it's consciousness. It's the ability for the human mind to do wonderous things that we didn't know could happen. But it's also a way for other lifeforms to do things we can't imagine. But it's just physics. And humanity's going to wake up, and it's going to be amazing. We're SO CLOSE!"
When asked how long the UFO phenomenon has been active for, Tom Delonge says there's disparities when you ask the different stovepipes. This is due to the fact that there were so many twists. At first, people thought they were dealing with space aliens. Afterwards, they weren't so sure. Later on, they figured they were right the first time, but there was more to it.
"This is going to sound ridiculous, but Atlantis is real." There's something very important about that timeframe and who the humans were at that point. He says he's completely guessing at this, but he's going to bring the question up with an advisor, a "big time" person that just joined his advisory team 2 days ago. He can't ask until the end of September because he can only meet this person face to face. He says his question will be whether or not the civilization at that time had the ability to repel the phenomenon with consciousness.
There's potential that humanity at that time frame was so elevated that none of these lifeforms or parasites could mess with us.
The UFO phenomenon has a hive mind. These creatures potentially don't have souls, they're like clones. They worship their own technology to some degree, but they feed off fear and negativity. The one thing that they cannot stand is the frequency of elevated human consciousness. What's the best way for them to make sure we stay at a low level? Just crash something and bam, the transistor is born. Keep giving humans technology, cell phones, etc., so they walk around like soul-less cyborgs, all getting directions from machines. People think "but I'm controlling my devices." In actuality, you're so focused on these things that you never take the time to close your eyes, take a deep breath, and realize that we're all connected.
The group Delonge is in touch with is trying to figure out how to get out of the cycle, and his idea seemed like it just might work, even if it's no silver bullet.
Delonge says he thinks humanity has risen and fallen through multiple cycles through the deceit and design of the UFO phenomenon.

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He tells a story about a time he tried to talk to a suicidal person hanging off the edge of a bridge, and the person jumped. He uses the story to contrast real-life violence to TV/media violence. Our culture perpetuates an obsession with violence (for entertainment). We pay money to see violence, to experience it.
"Governments know that it's happening on purpose. As soon as we decide to stop doing that, it's going to be a completely different world."
But we do have ISIS, we do have terrorists... But hopefully not for long.
Isn't it weird that we're suddenly talking about space, and NASA's going to Europa, and we're finding all these planets? Something's coming, and I know what's coming, and it's gonna be great!
When you turn on the news and you see stuff that makes you feel bad, it lowers your frequency. And guess what wants you to feel that way? The universe is teeming with life, and a lifeform wants you to feel that way. So just don't feel that way, and you're free and clear.
"I know it sounds so strange. Why do you think I want to whiteboard the entire thing through movies, books and documentaries? Because it's difficult for people to understand in one conversation. It sounds like stupid magic hokey-pokey stuff. I know. Why don't you sit with the guys I'm sitting with, and tell them they don't know what they're talking about..." (he chuckles) "It makes sense, it all makes sense. It's unreal, man. We're capable of something insanely good, and we're just around the corner from it."
Jimmy Church says no one from the government is going to come out and say "Okay. We lied to you.," which Delonge doesn't deny. He then asks what's going to happen. Delonge then freezes and says "it's not going to be the president or Congress. The government doesn't deal with the UFO topic the way you think they would. They're not in charge of it the way you'd expect that they would be."
He says when he thinks of the people that handle the UFO topic, he says "Oh my god, I wouldn't want that job. I-would-not-want-that-job. And if I was given it, I don't know what I would do."
A few people handle it so that you can go to the movies with your family, go to the beach and have a life. Other people are walking around with a briefcase and multiple PhDs, and they can't even sleep because they're dealing with something that's really difficult.
The government does have bad apples, but the UFO topic is not being covered up by the government in the way you would think. Where it exists and where it's managed is in a different type of mechanism. You can't blame the normal institutions that you think are like god-like powers. It's not that way with this topic; the entire globe is involved. The United States is the leader, it's doing the majority of the work and it's pushing everybody. We're the first country for the free mind, for the free people. There's a reason. It's because we were the enlightened idea of a people. And that idea spread. We call it democracy, we call it Western civilization. Even on this pretty big ugly deal, America is working for the countries that hate it. We're out there fighting something for them. It's unreal. It's really inspiring.
Jimmy Church talks about Bob Lazar. Tom Delonge says Sekret Machines is putting out Bob Lazar's autobiography shortly.
Tom Delonge thinks Bob Lazar is very credible. Lazar was under the belief that all the work on the UFO phenomenon was being done at Area 51, at S4. Also, that UFOs are from far, far away. Although those things were not true, Lazar did work on the stuff, and he was there. People need to read the autobiography.
The government isn't conducting its research in secret because it's hiding from taxpayers, it's hiding from the phenomenon itself. The breakthroughs that we have are a competitive advantage to the battlefield.
Tom Delonge reads the answer to a question he asked an associate: How does a non-physical entity create a physical object like a flying saucer? "Using nano-fabrication, atomic layer by atomic layer, with durable nano-texturing and quantum entanglement properties, and of course, powered by the polarizable vacuum. Same methods that cryptoterrestrials use."
The human spirituality component of consciousness and the positive feelings of love and happiness are very important; as important as drinking a glass of water -- the military and intelligence community and other areas of the DoD know about it and they take that very seriously.
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Delonge says he has important stuff to say about Starfish Prime, the 1962 nuclear test in space.
We learned quite a lot from the test; it was the main test where we were able to study and learn about EMP. Actually, when the whole world was focused on the Cuban Missile Crisis, something else was going on. That something else may have brought something down. And that something that brought something down taught us a lot about EMP, and how we could use it to catch things that are hiding.
He says as soon as we started detonating nuclear bombs, there were UFOs everywhere and every time. And there's a reason why; it's because it can actually "eff up those little ankle biters." And they know it. And even they, as advanced as they are, they can't get away from it. "Makes you really wonder why we did so many nuclear tests. Why we have so many nuclear weapons. Why we do tests everywhere, in the sky, underground..."
Delonge says during the entire Cold War, we were working with the Soviet Union. Our relationship together on this issue is what kept the Cold War from going hot. He believes the Soviets were "in the room with us" when Starfish Prime was detonated. Everyone wanted to see us fly-swat some bugs out of the sky.
"Roswell did happen." He explains the findings with Starfish Prime were different from the findings at Roswell, but equally as important. It's a whole other story in and of itself, but it won't be talked about until SM book 2 comes out.
Speaking about the technological "help" we receive from aliens: When you refer to "help," help can be a variety of things. It can be a crash. A crash could be because we shot it down. Because the lightning brought it down. Or maybe they faked getting hit by lightning or getting shot down?
For every event, you have to ask, is it intentional? Is it direct contact? Are you led to the contact or is the contact led to you?
Another way "help" happens: Do you have indirect contact? Do you have thoughts put in your mind when you wake up one morning because you don't know what happened while you were sleeping?
Tom Delonge believes that the DNA molecule "shoots information into the source." The DNA molecule is very rare for that job. There's something about the genome that is desired by other lifeforms that don't have that power and that connection.
Delonge feels that his career, taking into account all his business endeavors outside Blink 182, make him curiously fit for the job of leading this disclosure effort. He says he had a handful of companies that failed, but he moved on. He says the past 20 years led up to him being able to do what he's doing now. He knew how to approach high ranking people and talk to them about sensitive subjects.
He mentions being interrogated for 2 days by someone who wanted to know how he knew all the things he put in his book. At the end of the 2 days, the interrogator told him to keep doing what he's doing, that it was a good thing.
Delonge denounces shows like Ancient Aliens, says it's "alien worshipping" - aliens made us, aliens built everything, aliens are gods... There needs to be a mechanism in place that educates people not to idolize them, because they're not good.
He specifies that he's talking about one specific race of alien, which he and his contacts nicknamed "the bugs."
Also, people are not to blame; neither are the people that appear on those shows. They just don't know the truth.
Referring to Trump partially, when any candidate of any country pops up and starts to inflame things with bigoted, divisive comments, that's when "those guys" say "What a great formula for war." It's the UFO thing. It's implanted ideas and suggestions. It's a chess game. We're trying to defeat the chess game.
Delonge also talks about candidate Hillary Clinton. He says she is not mentioning UFOs in the media for votes, because it's not something that gets you votes. It's because it's time. It's gonna start coming, and people need to listen up and be inspired.
We have to change the way we treat each other. It's not humanity's fault that we hate each other. We were designed to hate each other. We need to put the weapons down and grab each others by the arms, look up and say "you bastards!"
He briefly mentions that Ronald Reagan and Gorbachev were actually working together despite appearances.
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Tom Delonge has heard of the black knight satellite conspiracy, but doesn't believe there's anything to it.
(Pepsi apparently incorporated the black knight satellite into an ad at the time) "Nothing is going to come out with Pepsi or something dumb. It's going to come out in a very elevated, 'prestige' kind of way."
Delonge says he has many questions for his advisors and keeps being led into different directions that are out of his comfort zone. He alludes to an earlier event he mentioned that was described to him as "part military, part spiritual."
He then reads a text message that he received while the interview was happening from one of his very high ranking advisors: "If I say to you one day that I no longer believe in the metaphysical reality of God, how would I answer a later question asking if I've ever felt the presence of God?" This gives you an idea of the kinds of topics that come up.
When asked if he was afraid for his safety, Delonge says the reason he went banging on doors to ask for permission is that he was afraid of the whole thing. "We're dealing with the most secreetive topic on Earth, the most explosive topic on Earth. A phenomenon that is extraordinarily powerful, like the gods of ancient myths." He says you have to approach all this with respect.
He's still in the process of going around asking for permission, so he recommends you keep watching him. If you see that the second book never comes out, that's how you'll know that someone said "Not now, not the right time."
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quote:

That first link seems like it should be headline news, across the world.


Agree
The Fox News/Brett Baier video I posted today expresses this exact sentiment

Interesting times for sure...
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:08 pm to
Yes, this is already getting spun politically...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/05/please-god-let-it-be-aliens-and-not-trumps-space-force

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PLEASE, GOD, LET IT BE ALIENS AND NOT TRUMP’S SPACE FORCE
It appears the U.S. government is softening us up for a revelation, either regarding extraterrestrial life or a world-disruptive military technology. It’s sad to say that alien life seems like the safer option.
BY T.A. FRANK MAY 30, 2019 6:04 PM


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What’s going on? Speculation is rife on the Y Combinator forums. Guesses include U.S. drones (a terrestrial craft), “Von Neumann probes” (self-perpetuating extraterrestrial craft), and a “disinformation campaign” (none of the above). Politico reports that advocates of the Navy’s new UFO reporting rules simply want to change “a culture in which personnel feel that speaking up about it could hurt their career.” After all, in an age when “removing the stigma” has become a refrain on everything from cannabis to male postpartum depression, maybe it was inevitable that overcoming UFO shame was next. We don’t want to invalidate your flying saucer feelings.


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If the objects are real, as opposed to optical illusions or radar glitches, they move in a mystifying manner and suggest a technological breakthrough of history-altering importance. Odds are low that they’re products of the U.S. military, because some of these vessels have come close to colliding with manned U.S. aircraft, and such recklessness would be unlikely among aerospace experts in a secret program. On the other hand, such recklessness would also be odd for any other country capable of producing such vessels. Looks like that leaves only Zorgon.


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Some people speculate that the U.S. government, by making these sightings public, is softening us up for a revelation, either regarding extraterrestrial life or a world-disruptive technology. It’s sad to say that alien life seems like the safer option. If the UFOs turned out to be man-made, then the first worry would be that the inventors weren’t American. The second worry would be that they were. If China or Russia had developed a force-field propulsion technology, whatever that is, they could use their new power for ill, as they have in the past. On the other hand, if the United States had developed a force-field propulsion technology—well, our stretch as a lone superpower following the collapse of the Soviet Union was not characterized by excessive prudence. Compared to earthly hegemons, alien Tic Tacs seem benign, apart from their erratic driving. These UFOs could change human history, but, for now, we aren’t giving them much thought. They’re just floating about, unexplained and unidentified, and we have work to do. But mention them in conversation and they’re likely to lead to nervous humor, as do most things unfamiliar and out of our control. The pilots may be laughing, because they have the comfort of peers who are seeing the same thing, but most wouldn’t be laughing if they were alone. We know that life is fragile and that it continues at the mercy of a universe on a little planet orbiting around a star that will eventually flame out. The odds of these supersonic ovals in our midst turning out to be a net plus for humanity are low. Worrying about Donald Trump is almost reassuringly small by comparison. But at least we’re trusting our military personnel to see what’s in front of them. As Colonel Edwards asks, “How could I hope to hold down my command if I didn’t believe in what I saw and shot at?”
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Drip drop.

Alien/UFO reveal on the verge of happening. I'd give it 5 years max.
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Delonge has not spoken ill of the Trump administration

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/tom-delonge-interview-ufo-footage-angels-airwaves-blink-182-843812/

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Tom DeLonge on ‘Scary’ UFO Footage, Angels and Airwaves and Blink-182’s Future Since leaving Blink-182 to study UFOs, the guitarist has been on one of the strangest odysseys in rock. But as he puts it: “Maybe Tom isn’t so nuts after all”
By PATRICK DOYLE


Nice name for the band...

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What did it feel like to see the latest article in the Times?

This is the third New York Times article that we organized and put together at To the Stars. But this one’s dealing directly with the pilots that are current military pilots that we took to the Senate and Congress. A few weeks ago, there was another article that leaked on the Times that Congress is putting together a formal reporting mechanism to the Navy on UFOs. That’s us again. Our show Unidentified is us doing that. Taking these specific pilots to Congress, influencing legislative language for oversight committees and for the appropriations committees. In that process, it leaked and came out in the papers. But our show is what this article specifically is about. And [it’s] very real. Lieutenant Graves [said] they had a fleet of UFO’s follow their carrier battle group for eight months out to the Middle East where they’re intercepting them almost on a daily basis. It’s pretty unnerving.


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So that UFO footage that the Times posted — explain what that is.

It’s gun-camera footage. And what people don’t understand is they could be many, many miles away. But they’re zoomed in on an object. And even when the object just bounces an inch on the screen, that means it could’ve gone from zero to 20,000 miles an hour in a snap of your fingers. It’s a big deal even though it just looks like a little blob. But if you’re a pilot, or if you’re a radar operator, or a trained military observer, you know exactly what that is and it’s scary to them. Because things don’t do that. There’s no wings; there’s no plume on the infrared cameras. You will see an outline of a plane. You will see the fire coming out of the back — these crafts don’t have that. They’re circular or disc-like in shape. They have blurred edges. They have observability. They have positive lift and all these different factors that the government has identified. Any one of these things — they call them these five observables, and any one of them, if a country were to get one of these five, it would be a paradigm shift. A game-changing national-security issue. And these craft have five of them. What we’re showing Congress, and what we’ve been doing in the Senate, that we’re now bringing out to the American people and the world, it’s like, “This is fricking real. And it’s real scary, so let’s get our stuff together and deal with it.”


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Why is the footage “scary” and dangerous to you?

Because you’re dealing with something [that] you don’t know what it is, you don’t know who’s in there or who’s operating these things. [Luis Elizondo] says it best: It’s kind of like you go to bed at night, you lock your doors, you set your alarm. And then you wake up in the morning, unlock the door and there’s bloody footprints through your whole living room. And you’re like, “The alarm didn’t trip, the doors were still locked, but someone walked right through my house and I had no clue. Whose footprints are those?” That’s kind of scary, because you have no clue how they could bypass all the security systems of your house effortlessly. Something with this technology is in charge. This is like rolling into some type of indigenous tribe that’s never met man. They’re deep in the forests of some remote Pacific Island and we come in with an aircraft carrier and a stealth fighter and all they have are sticks. Who’s in charge should they choose to impose their will? We don’t even know what this is, but we have to think in terms of that. And that’s a big deal.

And think about the technology of these, too. Think about World War II when we were the only ones that had the nuclear bomb. You could take over the world. This is so far beyond nuclear power. They talk about civilizations, the Type 1, Type 2, Type 3 civilizations. A Type 1 civilization can control the power of the planet, and Type 2 can control the power of the sun and a Type 3 civilization can control the power of their own galaxy. We’re not even a Type 1 civilization yet. This could be a Type 2 or Type 3 that’s operating these things. I have no clue, but the technology that it is, is so far beyond what we can do that it’s unnerving. You have to hope that they’re loving. That’s a stretch probably, right?




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Do you see Trump talking about this?

That’s a good question. I don’t know. I do know that because of our efforts, the White House has been definitely informed of some things. I wouldn’t know what. I do think that there’s the potential that some of his Space Force comments are taking into account some of the data and information regarding the subject. Do you think the Space Force is a good idea? I don’t know. It make sense to me because when we wanted to deal with oceans, we created the Navy. We created the Army to deal with land. We created the Air Force to deal with the sky. Space is a real thing now; we can get there. And there’s things out there. One of the radar operators, the guy I was referring to that was a Top Gun graduate, he’s the one that sent out the intercept. Commander Fravor [a retired Navy commander who reported the 2004 U.S.S. Princeton incident] was sent by this guy and he watched 100 craft come in from space over a four-day period. One hundred!

Where?

Over the coast of San Diego. So they came in, they hovered and they would drop in .78 seconds from 80,000 feet to sea level. Do you realize how fast .78 seconds is? 80,000 feet to zero. It’s just there. That’s just unreal! The question would be, “Is it imperative that we create an entire division that deals with space?” It makes sense to me because it’s not like we can tell the Navy to worry about space. Maybe they want to. Maybe they consider space like the ocean or something. I don’t even know. It’s just way above anything that I’ve experienced.


Anons knew...
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Was it Q who said that more UFO information would be more widely released to lessen the impact of the drama about to play out with the Dumbacrats? That it was high level dims doing those releases?
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