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NPR fact checked article on Trump’s Hunter Biden claims
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:50 pm
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When President Trump and Joe Biden faced off for the first — and so far, only — presidential debate late last month, Trump attacked his Democratic rival with a false claim about Hunter Biden.
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"Hunter got thrown out of the military," Trump said of the former vice president's son. "He was thrown out, dishonorably discharged, for cocaine use."
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That's factually wrong. Hunter Biden, 50, received an administrative discharge, not a dishonorable discharge, from the U.S. Navy Reserve in 2014 after he tested positive for cocaine.
NPR
Good lord. Hell of a fact check.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 8:52 pm
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Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:51 pm to Deuces
What is an administrative discharge
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:52 pm to Deuces
Laughing....not much about it is wrong. From what I gather as a layman it's the military's way of firing you or just getting rid of you.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:52 pm to Deuces
Semantics by npr.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:53 pm to Deuces
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administrative discharge
only because of who his dad was
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:53 pm to Deuces
#defundNPR
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:53 pm to Deuces
That’s almost as bad as the NBC bleach but fact check
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:53 pm to jlovel7
Admin discharges are usually given for medical purposes or "other reasons". I've seen a lot of guys fail drug tests and get admin discharges.
You have to do pretty crazy shite to get a Dishonorable, most people who get kicked out get Bad Conducts at worst.
You have to do pretty crazy shite to get a Dishonorable, most people who get kicked out get Bad Conducts at worst.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:53 pm to antibarner
Trump was right, he got preferential treatment, though
Posted on 10/18/20 at 8:56 pm to Deuces
That means he can still buy a gun to shoot himself.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 9:00 pm to Deuces
So he was administratively discharged without honor?
Posted on 10/18/20 at 9:01 pm to jlovel7
Discharge and separation from the military are two different things. You can be separated administratively or medically (prior to retirement). However the nature of your discharge (honorable, other than honorable/general, dishonorable) can differ. So, for example, someone can be administratively separated and still receive an honorable discharge depending on their command's prerogative. I imagine for Hunter Biden, he received an ADSEP (admin separation) with an other than honorable discharge. Command likely did not want to deal with any PR blowback pursuing a dishonorable discharge haha
Posted on 10/18/20 at 9:02 pm to Deuces
Looking at Hunter, I don’t doubt it.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 9:04 pm to usctarheel19
Dishonorable extends to civilian life, and is basically the same as being a convicted felon. Can't buy a gun, can't vote, can never enter a military base. I think you also might not be able to travel internationally. I don't think anyone can reverse it either.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 10/18/20 at 9:05 pm to jlovel7
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What is an administrative discharge
I am not military...
but sounds like what one might get if you have good enough connections to prevent getting a dishonorable discharge.
This post was edited on 10/18/20 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 10/18/20 at 9:05 pm to Deuces
Cocaine use should have been a punitive discharge (bad conduct or dishonorable).
Also should have served time in a pound me in the arse prison.
Also should have served time in a pound me in the arse prison.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 9:05 pm to Deuces
Hunter was a piece of fricking shite who was NOT EVER qualified to be a commissioned officer. If he was in fact given preferential treatment and chaptered out, aka, "administrative discharge" for drug use, his DD214 should most definitely reflect that his discharge, while maybe not classified as "dishonorable" (obviously due to his last name), it should as a MINIMUM reflect the terminology, "Other Than Honorable."
Posted on 10/18/20 at 9:10 pm to TigerCruise
When I was in if you popped positive you were dishonorably discharged but you could down grade it to an administrative discharge upon appeal. Regardless, he was discharged under less than honorable conditions.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 9:11 pm to Crimson Wraith
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Cocaine use should have been a punitive discharge (bad conduct or dishonorable).
Also should have served time in a pound me in the arse prison.
This never happens in my experience.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 9:12 pm to Deuces
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administrative discharge
I served six years in the Army and am the son of a Army retiree. The first 24 years of my life revolved around the military. These are weasel words. It's not going to say "administrative discharge" on his DD214 copy 4. Hunter more than likely got a Other than Honorable Conditions.
Not only that thanks to Hunter's daddy being VP and got him TWO waivers to get a commission, he can't receive a bad conduct or dishonorable as a commissioned officer.
Regardless, an OTHC discharge is pretty fricking bad. You get no veterans benefits. You're still considered a shitbag.
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