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re: Now THIS is a very convincing Trump Ad

Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:48 pm to
Well, after you’ve spent the entirety of the time insisting that Trump’s a terrible choice to vote for altogether, and if enough people have chimed in on that same approach, your reluctant vote for Trump at the last minute may be rendered meaningless. That is, if somewhere along the way your railing against him, if and when combined with enough railing from others with the same exact approach, has possibly factored into even just one or two other peoples’ decision to vote against him.

In other words, if along the way you contributed to one or two people souring on him to the point of the decision to vote against - your may have ultimately contributed to a net negative for him.
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
4384 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 5:53 pm to
Trump is my guy just like Tiger Woods is.

Do I approve of all the things they’ve done in their personal lives over the years? Hell no.

But those mother frickers can run an economy and golf his ball like nobody ever has before or may ever again.

That’s why I support both.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9349 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:10 pm to
By "railing against him" you mean playing his own political ads and using his own words? I'm just pointing out facts and making sure people remember exactly how badly Trump screwed up Covid because it had a seriously negative impact on my life that got worse under Biden. BTW, his policies are exactly what opened the door for the Dems to do everything they did to screw around with voting and cost him the election.

Facts are facts. Trump has tried to act like everything he did during Covid was wonderful and he deserves zero blame. If you are cool with that so be it but while we are still choosing our nominee I think it's an appropriate time to remember how bad he fricked up and not call it an "oopsie".
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
12873 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:23 pm to
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A vote for Trump in the primary is a vote for Biden in the General. Hope you love 4 more years of this shite.



Who do recommend?
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
24833 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:26 pm to
He built the wall. It was the lowest number of illegals that came through the border ever for this country!

Hey, you just hired a safety manager for your business... He recommended to do several things. Since he is the safety coordinator, would you agree with what he was recommeding for you to do for the company or would you tell him to frick off and do things your way (even though you are not a professional safety coordnator?)
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
35068 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:43 pm to
No, by “railing against” I don’t mean this single thread. I’m speaking cumulatively. More than just this one, and not just that but the vitriolic nature as well. It’s all ramping up exponentially. And I’m not exclusively referring to yours.

Regarding Fauci, I would be able to put together ten quick paragraphs describing a much more complicated scenario regarding the Trump and Fauci dynamic, particularly during the pandemic. I say that mostly to demonstrate my view on how vaccines I perceive it in a much, much more complex setting. Whereas I perceive the average viewpoint on it here as essentially Trump either actively enjoyed or preferred the relationship, or that literally he was fearful of Fauci - both of which IMO are preposterous ideas. Again leaving me with the extensively complicated scenario option which is obvious to me regardless.
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 6:44 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:50 pm to
Biden wins regardless who he runs against.

After all who would want a popular president to leave office?
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39841 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

Hey, you just hired a safety manager for your business... He recommended to do several things. Since he is the safety coordinator, would you agree with what he was recommeding for you to do for the company or would you tell him to frick off and do things your way (even though you are not a professional safety coordnator?)


If he told me to do things that would ruin my fricking business you bet your arse I'd fire him.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Member since Aug 2014
11369 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:01 pm to
Operation Warp Speed was as big of a clusterfrick as Obama Care.

Trump owns it.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
35068 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:19 pm to
You’ve missed the central point of the post. But given your response, the question obviously becomes, considering the fact that you hired the expert because presumably you weren’t convinced that you had the proper knowledge to make a responsible decision(s) in that area, what would make you out of hand reject what your own paid expert has recommended? Why hire an expert in the first place if you believe you had the knowledge and ability to reject his recommendations and substitute your own to begin with?
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 7:21 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:20 pm to
Yep and he needs to apologize right?
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39841 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:22 pm to
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You’ve missed the central point of the post. But given your response, the question obviously becomes, considering the fact that you hired the expert precisely because you acknowledged that you didn’t have the knowledge to make a responsible decision(s) in that area, what would make you out of hand reject what your own paid expert has recommended? Why hire an expert in the first place if you believe you had the knowledge and ability to reject his recommendations and substitute your own to begin with?



I get what you're trying to do but Trump was elected because he was a businessman and would succeed economically.

Never mind the terrible vaccines and authoritarian measures the government enforced on people - Trump went along with the plan to completely fricking destroy the economy.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:22 pm to
He needs to play golf and enjoy life.

Not run again. His last year in office was nightmatish.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:28 pm to
Trump didn't hire Fauci. Fauci has been a DC swamp rat for decades.

It would have been easy for Trump to ship him off to some remote lab in North Dakota to "do covid experiments" or some other shite. He was never a Trjmp man...but Trump let him run the show right off a cliff.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
24833 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:29 pm to
Then why did you hire him? If you are Mr Safety Man then you would not need him. I am not sure how any president in the history of the United States would have known what's right or what's wrong with an event like COVID. So what did Trump do? He turned to Scientists - you know, the people who have studied this shite for 20-30-40 years. You would think that professionals in that sector would have been correct about the majority of the bullshite flowing out of their mouths.
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1487 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:34 pm to
Now THIS… is childish. Unfortunately, this kind of behavior has infected the majority of posters here. The democrats are very pleased. We are doing their job for them.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Member since Aug 2014
11369 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:41 pm to
Trump isn't a scientist, so it's not his fault? Get out of here.

He was the President and let a science nerd become a Cult of Personality. The PPP, Stimulus (the catalysts for our inflation), Operation Warp Speed, etc were unmitigated disasters that are on Trump, not Fauci.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39841 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:44 pm to
This is such a weak and dumb argument. Why have an executive then? Let all of the decisions for the country just go to a panel of “experts”
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:44 pm to
This shite didn’t start with DeSantis supporters. Let’s go ahead and stop that fricking lie now. It started when for no reason at all, Trump ran his mouth about the most conservative governor in the country. Going so far as to imply he’s a pedophile and say that the dem candidate would have been better for Florida.

And all of his low IQ sycophants ran with it at his command because they wouldn’t dare question their god.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39841 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 7:45 pm to
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El Segundo Guy


They’re willing to go to any level to defend Trump. It’s so disheartening. Defending Fauci to defend Trump is a new low.
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