re: Now that Tillerson and Trump admit Russian interference in the GE should we have a redo?

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You do realize that we have meddled in other countries elections for years, right?

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And how is that remotely pertinent? Seriously....we have also just recently attacked a sovereign nation with tomahawk missiles....if, lets say, NK shows up off the coast of NJ in a submarine and shoots up LaGuardia or Kennedy with missiles are we supposed to just say 'well, trunabout is fair play?"

If we want to take our government to task for meddling in other nations elections ON OUR BEHALF AND IN OUR NAMES then you and I agree that is something we should have done YEARS ago....it has zero to do with a foreign nation meddling in our elections.

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and the GOP does have in its power the ability to keep that president from impacting the nation any further until such time as he can be replaced through the election process


Would you be advocating this if Hillary had been elected? Wasn't the Democratic primary influenced by the DNC and Hillary?

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Absolutely....If Hillary Clinton had been elected and the only check on her power was democrats and it became CLEAR...which it hasn't yet and may never do so in Trump's case....but if it did I would fully expect the democrats to send a clear message to the American people that they would do what they had the power to do to limit the influence of the president until such time as the people could legally vote again. I have no delusions that the democrats would do this...they would be just like Republicans and pretend as if nothing untoward had happened....but that doesn't mean that they wouldn't have to answer to moderates in many, many, many elections to come for making that decision.

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otherwise any gains the GOP and the right makes is due to Russian interference in the election and the GOP will have to own that shite from now until the end of time.


Actually, no. It would be due to Trump and the GOP....unless you are arguing the Russians are still pulling strings?

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With all due respect you are negating the ability of politicians to twist reality....the russians may or may not be pulling strings...it makes NO difference...if...and this is still questionable as far as I am concerned...but if we reach the conclusion that Trump was promoted by the Russians and the GOP does not take him to task for that for at least 2 years if not 4 then it is a pretty easy thing for democratic campaigns to tie even someone running for dog catcher as a Republican as being in lock step with a nation who would use sarin gas against "beautiful" babies...and when you consider how close some elections are it only takes a few minds being changed.

What I am saying is that the GOP is handing the democrats a HUGE stick to beat them over the head with going forward for many, many, many years.....anyone who denies that is simply ignorant of politics in the US....

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And how is that remotely pertinent

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Because it seems a bit impertinent for us to run around saying how wrong it is for other countries to meddle in our elections when we have been doing the same for decades? That doesn't seem rather hypocritical to you?

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If we want to take our government to task for meddling in other nations elections ON OUR BEHALF AND IN OUR NAMES then you and I agree that is something we should have done YEARS ago....it has zero to do with a foreign nation meddling in our elections.

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Absolutely, we should not be meddling in their elections, or if we are so set on doing so, at least not act sanctimoniously offended when they try to meddle in ours.

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Absolutely....If Hillary Clinton had been elected and the only check on her power was democrats and it became CLEAR.

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So I assume you advocated for her to NOT run on the Democratic ticket in November? We already knew she had tried to fix the primary. tell me, if you don't mind. Did you vote for Hillary knowing she had tried to fix an election?

Nobody has even hinted that the Russians are pulling Trumps "strings". The only thing anybody seems able to come up with is they MIGHT have leaked some of Hillary's e-mails to WikiLeaks, and even that is questionable. To insinuate that the Russians have any lasting influence is pretty weak.

There was no outrage from the left when Hillary influenced American politics, but since Trump was elected, there seems to be all kinds of outrage. how convenient.

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Any mention of a redo qualifies the speaker as an idiot. Or in this case as an admitted troll and this thread should be deleted. It's impossible to have any real discussion on here because of bull shite like this

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He is simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the left. It's not worse than any of the other threads on the board. Look at the first page. How many of those threads do you think are troll threads? Almost all of them. It's the same on the sports board. Sports, politics and religion bring out the trolls. It's just human nature.