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re: No Such Thing As Alpha Males
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:23 pm to Ebbandflow
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:23 pm to Ebbandflow
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"All of which is to say: Humans who enjoy the idea of "alpha males" might want to keep in mind that there isn't really any such thing. And to the extent the term has any meaning at all, it describes the behavior of captive, lonely creatures."
Who said that? A psychologist/sociologist or the author?
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:23 pm to SirWinston
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The left believes in science except when they dont
Show me a peer-reviewed scientific article from the last 30 or 40 years that proves human beings have alpha males. I'll hang up and listen. That really backfired in your face didn't it? You believe in fictional science
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:24 pm to Ebbandflow
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still don't understand why you're talking about chimpanzees.
Who are we more closely related too?
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:24 pm to Azkiger
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:25 pm to Ebbandflow
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And to the extent the term has any meaning at all, it describes the behavior of captive, lonely creatures.
To that extant, you are an Alpha Male.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:25 pm to Ebbandflow
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I'm guessing that you don't read so well. Here's an excerpt from that same article:
All of which is to say: Humans who enjoy the idea of "alpha males" might want to keep in mind that there isn't really any such thing. And to the extent the term has any meaning at all, it describes the behavior of captive, lonely creatures."
That is literally nothing more than the writer's opinion which was haphazardly extrapolated from an article he cited about hens and another guy saying that his original theory of wolf behavior isn't necessarily correct.
To take those anecdotal observations and attempt to make a wide-ranging claim like "alpha males don't exist" is extremely foolish, especially when that writer most likely does not have any zoology background or otherwise have any expertise in animal behavior. Only a writer with an agenda to push could've fallen into such an error in judgement.
We both know that last sentence was intended to be a not-so-subtle jab at Trump and his supporters.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 9:25 am
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:27 pm to UGATiger26
psychology today
This is from an actual psychologist and it's about humans. I probably should have led with this
This is from an actual psychologist and it's about humans. I probably should have led with this
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:27 pm to Ebbandflow
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Buckle up.
That article disagrees with your first with respect to alphas and wolf packs.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:28 pm to Azkiger
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That article disagrees with your first with respect to alphas and wolf packs.
How about humans, which I am guessing you are?
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:29 pm to Ebbandflow
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How about humans, which I am guessing you are?
Define the term you claim doesnt exist.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:32 pm to Azkiger
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Define the term you claim doesnt exist.
What? This isn't about the meaning of a word. It's about that word's application to humans in behavioral psychology
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:33 pm to Ebbandflow
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This is from an actual psychologist and it's about humans. I probably should have led with this
Articles says “alpha males” don’t exist. Then goes on to describe the countless ways in which the “socially dominate” male does exist.
Wow, what a break through. /eye roll/
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:33 pm to Ebbandflow
There's definitely such a thing as Beta Males just look at the Democrat party.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:34 pm to Ebbandflow
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psychology today
Business Insider
Another one of those things that you guys kept echoing but didn't really understand
Oh boy, left wing horse shite.
Business Insider - hahahahahahahahaha
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:34 pm to Ebbandflow
This is from the same group that said masculinity is a mental disorder. You continue to place your beliefs in a pseudoscience. The fact that you lack the self confidence to have an original idea might be the most ironic thing I've read 
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:34 pm to Ebbandflow
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What? This isn't about the meaning of a word.
How can you say there aren't any alpha males if there isn't a definition for that term? Are you in middle school?
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:34 pm to Ebbandflow
From your article
You do realize that when people nowadays refer to "alpha males" this is what they are referring to, correct? Men who garner higher levels of female adulation and male respect due to physical attractiveness, charisma, money, power, fame, etc.
We are more complex and therefore have more ways to assert "dominance" than simple physical intimidation and confrontation.
You (and that article) are just arguing semantics.
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When we speak of human alpha males today, it may be that we refer to the trait of social dominance: Studies have demonstrated that socially dominant men hold sway with many women, and can invoke feelings of inferiority among men. Thanks to current research, these men may also be more readily identifiable.
You do realize that when people nowadays refer to "alpha males" this is what they are referring to, correct? Men who garner higher levels of female adulation and male respect due to physical attractiveness, charisma, money, power, fame, etc.
We are more complex and therefore have more ways to assert "dominance" than simple physical intimidation and confrontation.
You (and that article) are just arguing semantics.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:35 pm to UGATiger26
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You do realize that when people nowadays refer to "alpha males" this is what they are referring to correct?
Which is why she doesn't want to define the term.
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:35 pm to Ebbandflow
quote:You played in your high school band, didn't you? Be honest!
Another one of those things that you guys kept echoing but didn't really understand
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:42 pm to UGATiger26
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They talked about alpha behavior in chimpanzees. You support science right? Pray tell, what animal do you think humans have more in common with? Chimpanzees or chickens?
Probably chimps. Whever wrote that doesn’t have chickens either. I have about 15 hend and 2 roosters. One is a small bantam rooster that we have to keep because somene gave it to my son and he loves it. the other rooster is the offspring of another full-sized rooster that we ate because he got aggressive. The small rooster was fully grown when the other rooster was hatched. He chased the young rooster and dominated him even after the young rooster outgrew him. He wouldn’t let him near the hens to mate. Just recently, they fought and the large rooster has become dominant. He now mates with the hens and runs off the bantam rooster if he gets too close. Sorry, leftards, he is the Alpha.
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