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re: Newly Released Peter Strzok Doc

Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
82793 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:11 pm to
Cling to it

He wanted a result regardless of facts.
He got the desired outcome.
It was leaked prior to being presented to Obama.
He spoke of it as fact prior to it being presented to him

He did it to damage the Presidency period.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463919 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:13 pm to
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What about the rapid fire posts is inaccurate, Counselor?

Nothing on here "shakes me to my core" or "eats a hole in my gut"

Certainly not countering bad arguments/points.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463919 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

He wanted a result regardless of facts.
He got the desired outcome.
It was leaked prior to being presented to Obama.
He spoke of it as fact prior to it being presented to him



We can accept all of this as true, except correcting "facts" with the proper "opinions". It doesn't change the point of my argument.

All that can be true (with the proper correction reflecting reality) and it still ends up in the questions you won't answer.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
82793 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:17 pm to
What answer your bullshite that he assessed it as credible?

Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
783 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:18 pm to
Your post count and history suggests otherwise.

ETA - I notice you didn’t address the rapid fire post comment. Aren’t trial lawyers taught to redirect when the line of questioning doesn’t favor their argument?
This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 5:21 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463919 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

I notice you didn’t address the rapid fire post comment.

It's not really an accurate comment so I let it be.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47763 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

I'm saying there is not nearly enough to impute knowledge and mind reading. There's still a LOT of grey area/leeway for the admin.

Let's forget the concept of presenting this to a judge and jury

Let's put all the cards on the table and allow the actors on both sides make their arguments to the ELECTORATE for THEM to decide how to go forward.

FORGET the judge/jury scenario - KICK OUT all the word salad propaganda bullshite. Present an HONEST debate for the evaluation of the ELECTORATE

ONE side can argue with GENUINE conviction that the OTHER side -
- plotted to smear their opponent with purposefully made-up false allegations
- engaged the compliant media to support their plans and muzzle debate
- corrupted the judicial system to bring false charges
- employed congress critters to bring disingenious impeachments
- provided purposefully falsified information to a FISA court
- gave purposefully false and exaggerated 'leaks' to media outlets.
- etc
- etc

Let's settle this on the field of COMMON SENSE - as all political arguments should be.

Let's stage a LINCOLN - DOUGLAS debate
- carried on all broadcast media
- man to man with NO 'moderators'
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
18900 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:11 pm to
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When executive officers present their subjective, opinion-based analyses to POTUS, what commits him to adopting that as his subjective, opinion-based analysis?



This was not an assessment of circumstances or events where some conclusion is to be drawn. There was no analysis provided.

If Brennan’s own notes are to be believed this was a statement of fact …. sources have told him HRC is planning to tie trump to Russia to take the focus off her emails. Full stop.

What opinion or analysis exists in this statement? There’s no pondering to do…no conclusions to draw…other than a) this is true or b) this is false. How would surveilling Trump answer either of these questions?
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
64 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 9:34 pm to
you just used the term common sense while replying to SFP.

This is the same guy who, after his side of the political spectrum turned prosecuting Trump into 24/7 reality TV to as wide an audience as they could reach........ now says this issue won't garner attention from anyone but political junky's.

There doesn't need to be a debate. There needs to be public hearings exposing who these scum bags were when they were scumbagging.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47763 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

What opinion or analysis exists in this statement? There’s no pondering to do…no conclusions to draw…other than a) this is true or b) this is false. How would surveilling Trump answer either of these questions?

yeah but - you are not considering the importance of the 'narrative' the dems so desperately needed.

it's the narrative that's important - all else is noise.
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