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re: New York Times running openly racist editorials

Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422439 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:15 pm to
underrated wtf quote from this op-ed:

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When systemic joblessness strikes swaths of white America, we get an entire presidential campaign centered on globalization’s impact on the white working class.


pretty sure Trumpkins tried, and failed, to use this as a selling point to the black working class

well maybe not failed outright, because i think HRC only got 88% of the black vote

this also made me lol a bit

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his casual conflation of Muslims with terrorists


the conflation is certainly casual, especially from a worldwide perspective

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I do not write this with liberal condescension or glee.

no it's written with liberal emotions pouring out

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My heart is unbearably heavy when I assure you we cannot be friends.

that shite is just amazing to me

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For African-Americans, race has become a proxy not just for politics but also for decency. White faces are swept together, ominous anxiety behind every chance encounter at the airport or smiling white cashier. If they are not clearly allies, they will seem unsafe to me.

the ironing is thick
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:15 pm to
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Its not a broad stroke.


Incorrect. Saying liberals hate whites is a broad stroke.

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-my post to L.A was saying that if hes a mod i understand my treatment a little better. You take this to mean i said he banned me. Fine... Do you. But it conveniently allows you to sidestep my actual point. 


Again, I haven't sidestepped anything. Your response directly implied that he was banning you. That was what I was addressing. Like you, IDGAF how these folks run their site. Hell, the fact that it's LSU sympathetic means I can expect certain shite I say about A&M to be looked at askance. I'm not running around crying to mods over it like you, though. That's weak, like I said.

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-typically a moderator's job is to keep discussions...well...moderate... Civilized. I don't think someone who weighs in taking sides regularly makes a good moderator unless the site is intended to support that viewpoint. 


I mod a couple of boards. It depends on the tenor of the site in question. Mods are in no way required to remain completely neutral. Mods are intended to keep the site interacting according to their druthers and the druthers of fellow mods. Of course that will skew based on the site.

Keeping discussions "civilized" really is subjective. You just hate the fact that mods on this board don't agree with what you have to say.

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I dont care if LA or some other mod banned me or bans me for this post... My point is that his comment in this thread gave me a lot of insight into how the mods view liberals. 



You're slow af if you thought mods here were obligated to be friendly to leftist views. Especially some of the cockamamie ones you spew Come on.

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Ill say it one more time: if a site mod states liberals commonly hate white people and states it on the site... I am not surprised that the mods have reacted to my comments in the racial discussion threads the way they have in the past. 



Literally the same way right leaning viewpoints would be viewed on a left-dominated board. This shite isn't hard to figure out, man.

That said, if you're going to come with a left viewpoint, come correct. Not with the lame "you just did a Trumkin 'gotcha'" nonsense. You want the mods to rise above their biases (which they're entitled to have), then you have to calibrate your tone accordingly. I do it all the time in other forums, usually to great effect.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:23 pm to
The Left is driven by ethnic and religious hatred.

That has always been at the core of Bolshevism.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:23 pm to
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Hell, the fact that it's LSU sympathetic means I can expect certain shite I say about A&M to be looked at askance. I'm not running around crying to mods over it like you, though. That's weak, like I said.
I don't care that they have the opinions. I'm saying that I now understand why I was banned for the comments I made in the racial threads. If the people with the ban-hammer think liberal commonly hate white people, then, with that context, I now get why my comments were interpreted that way. If you already believe something it doesn't take much to confirm it. I don't care what you think is weak on this echo chamber. That's my opinion.

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mod a couple of boards. It depends on the tenor of the site in question. Mods are in no way required to remain completely neutral. Mods are intended to keep the site interacting according to their druthers and the druthers of fellow mods. Of course that will skew based on the site.

Keeping discussions "civilized" really is subjective. You just hate the fact that mods on this board don't agree with what you have to say.

I'll cede this. I assumed a site this large had professional moderation. If its volunteer users on the site then as you say...it is more expected for the mods to be reflective of the user-base.

I do think its lame that people that despise liberals openly get to ban people on a political forum but it is their site and it IS a right-wing political forum even if the name doesn't reflect the reality.

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You're slow
K.


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Literally the same way right leaning viewpoints would be viewed on a left-dominated board
The left-dominated boards I know of don't pretend to be a "political talk" forum. They are marketed as left-leaning. Here there is some level of obfuscation which I think is a bit chicken-shite.



Anyway, you do you man. Your drive-bys are getting tiresome from my end. It was nice having a friend on the other side while it lasted though.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:28 pm to
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Much sooner than I thought I would, I will have to discuss with my boys whether they can truly be friends with white people.


Holy shite.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21874 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:31 pm to
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Segregation then

Segregation now

Segregation forever




I was a racist before being a racist was cool.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:31 pm to
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I don't care that they have the opinions. I'm saying that I now understand


This is why I called you slow

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I do think its lame that people that despise liberals openly get to ban people on a political forum but it is their site and it IS a right-wing political forum even if the name doesn't reflect the reality. 


So you do care that the mods have their opinions/biases, in short

You undid your assertion earlier in your post with that follow up.

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Here there is some level of obfuscation which I think is a bit chicken-shite. 


No one has obfuscated anything. You just happen to be in the minority here and it doesn't set well with you. Know your audience.

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Your drive-bys are getting tiresome from my end. It was nice having a friend on the other side while it lasted though. 



I think the length/content of my replies to you qualify as slightly more substantive than "drive-bys" but ok

So are you terminating our friendship based upon this difference? That's kind of exactly what I was talking about people doing earlier itt :lol:

I'm good to remain friends. Doesn't mean I'm going to give you a pass or go easy on your arse when you step out of line and get stupid, though. If you can deal with that, we're cool. If not, take your leave. I'll be here either way
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:42 pm to
We are still friends. But these sorts of conversations are going to lead to another 2 month ban for me. You can believe it or not man. Leashes are shorter for some of us.

In fact if im gone after today you know why.

This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:51 pm to
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We are still friends.




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these sorts of conversations are going to lead to another 2 month ban for me. You can believe it or not man. Leashes are shorter for some of us. 

In fact if im gone after today you know why.  



If it means anything, I'll vouch for ya. I like to argue more than I like to see someone I'm arguing with get banned, I won't lie.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:53 pm to
Ha. Apologies if i got a lil butthurt. Was drinking and playing destiny 2 last night. Woke up with a vicious hangover and i have to fly out in a bit
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:56 pm to
It's all good. I was being pretty churlish. Been dealing with a sick wife/kid all weekend. You know how that sad little tableau plays out

Flying with a hangover sounds like a recipe from hell, yikes. Safe travels man. Maybe you can sell me on getting Destiny 2 later. Haven't really used my Xbox for video games since they quit making NCAA football. It's the Netflix machine now basically I miss gaming tho and I don't want to be a complete dolt on the sticks when Q gets old enough to play.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:28 pm to
Id recommend destiny 2 if you like shooters. Plus i can play it with a one year old on my lap
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:41 pm to
Sounds right up my alley
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38272 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 7:10 pm to
Tucker just owned the author of this op-ed
Posted by mattgr1983
Austin, Tx
Member since Oct 2012
2434 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 7:13 pm to
Yea frick this guy.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 11/13/17 at 7:35 pm to
I get along with conservatives just fine. We never talk about politics though. We just talk about the things we have in common
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