re: Net Neutrality People Have Convinced Me

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NN paves the way for Govt control of the internet. Anti NN lets unchecked capitalism and monopolies reign.

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If anyone needs a summation of whats going on, this is it.

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This is the type of argument most often employed by pro-NN people.

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No it isn't, you are willfully being ignorant.

I somewhat agree with your position.

NN supporters are so incessantly for it, they don't even remotely consider the drawbacks of having gov't regulated internet.

I guess it's similar with most topics that people are emotional about, but I've never seen such hate and condescension spewed over a product.

I've admitted I'm torn on the issue. I see the pros and cons of both sides, but the pro NN people are awfully unnerving. They're so quick to promote this tiered internet Boogeyman it leads me to believe we've all.been duped and the answer may ly on the other side.

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Something else that gets over looked in this argument is the fact that ISPs will now have the power to kill the Cord Cutter movement

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They already have this power

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They can sell tiered internet service, effectively making cord cutting an expensive alternative. The result is more subscribers to their cable television packages.

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already do this with service bundles.

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They can also cut access to things like torrent and streaming, using the claim that it is used to view illegal content.

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They are used to view illegal content.

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They are used to view illegal content.

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Are all torrents and streams are used to view illegal content?

No, so why should we shut it down because some are used in this way?

Sounds analogus to...

Are all Guns used to kill people?

No, so why should we ban Guns because some are used to kill people?

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Dumb asses Verizon and att put it out there they are going to censor what they deem “alt right “ hate speech once this is repealed because it’s bad for business Corporations should not be able to censor information from anyone Dec 14 let them know what’s up

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So don’t use those providers? You think the FCC has your best interest at heart?

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Are all torrents and streams are used to view illegal content? No, so why should we shut it down because some are used in this way?

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No. I didn’t say it should be shut down. It should be up to the ISP to decide. It’s their network. It’s their business to succeed or fail. If most want to use it in one way and they block it they will fail.

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Are all Guns used to kill people?

No, so why should we ban Guns because some are used to kill people?

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It’s not analogous at all. ISPs aren’t govt entities, atleast not yet..but that’s where net neutrality will take us..

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support for NN by entities like Google

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As much as I normally hate Google’s politics, theh have good reason to be pro-NN. Most tech companies should be in favor of it.

If internet service providers decide to charge extra for access to Google or Gmail, the ISP isnt going to be sharing a cut of that extra fee with Google and Google will end up with fewer users because a lot of people wont pay extra for it.

If people had to pay an extra $5 a month on their internet bill to access certain social media websites, those sites would lose a ton of users because a lot of people wouldnt pay for it. So of course Facebook, Twitter and Snapchat would be in favor of NN

Did you get this from a chain email from your mee maw?

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Already happens

$5.99/month for your most popular social media sites like Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.

Good, these sites rot people's brains and are the downfall of society

$5.99/month for your favorite aggregation sites like Reddit.

bullshite. Reddit uses next to zero bandwith. Have you ever seen their UI?

$5.99/month for "fast streaming pathways!" services to access the most popular streaming services like Netflix, HBO Go, etc.

This will happen with our without NN/Repeal

$5.99/month for commerce services and websites like Amazon, Ebay, and Craigslist.

bullshite. Any site you spend money on will continue to be free. Amazon isn't stupid.

$5.99/month for miscellaneous** news services like Infowars, Breitbart, and Rush Limbaugh.

Good. As long as they do the same for Salon, HuffPo, Vox, etc. And most likely ad revenue from the company would be used to offset this and they would continue to be free, these sites don't want to lose eyeballs.

$5.99/month for miscellaneous message board services like TigerDroppings.

Worth it. I'd pay $20/mo for TD. Is there a paypal I can send it to now?

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I am officially convinced that the people losing their minds over NN are absolute idiots. They are easily brainwashed by whatever Reddit and Facebook tell them they should think. These people deserve to pay more for internet or have limited access. Their brains are already rotten.

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What makes you think that the government would want to get into the ISP business?

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Net neutrality...aka the govt telling ISPs how to structure their business model.